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Ok all you CMS hacks, here is the list of letters I got, I hope there
is enough stuff to keep us going.  If not, this at least provides a
mailing list.

       -Cliff

>From menlo70!hao!pag  Sun Apr 18 18:24:46 1982
To: menlo70!ucbvax!g:cliff
Subject: CMS newsgroup

Please consider us interested.  We also have a 4341 running VM/CMS
in addition to our UNIX machines and CRAY-1.
--Peter Gross
  High Altitude Observatory
  NCAR
  ucbvax!menlo70!hao!pag



>From decvax!ittvax!johnv  Mon Apr 19 14:28:28 1982
Date: Sun Apr 18 09:59:33 1982
To: decvax!ucbvax!G:cliff
Subject: net.cms (net.vm ?)

We're in a similar situation with lots of smallish (to largeish) IBM
gear.  I for one (being in the IBM camp here, officially at least) would
like to see a newsgroup as you propose.  Keep us posted, please.
   
  John Varanelli   (ittvax!johnv)
   



>From somewhere!someone  Mon Apr 19 18:19:36 1982
Date-Sent: Mon Apr 19 08:00:57 1982
To: blah!blah2!ucbvax!G:cliff
Subject: net.cms

I can't see why a network of Unix machines should
pay to broadcast news items on cms.
Why not just start a mailing list?




>From decvax!duke!phs!dennis  Mon Apr 19 18:25:48 1982
Date-Sent: Sun Apr 18 10:41:43 1982
To: duke!decvax!ucbvax!G:cliff
Subject: net.cms

Having had to actually USE cms for a time, I don't
want to hear any more about it, ever.  However, I'll just unsubscribe.
I hope you can make it more liveable than I ever did!




>From decvax!watmath!watarts!geo  Mon Apr 19 20:24:35 1982
Date: Sun Apr 18 22:51:03 1982
I would be interested in net.cms
The department of computing services here runs 3 4341s with VM/sp
running CMS.

I will send you a little shell procedure.
A simple thing, but my own. 

Some of the user's here, on the arts faculties UNIX,
no practically nothing about computers.
They may however have used CMS in a by rote fashion.
I wrote a programme that warns them when their
knowledge  of VM  is colliding with their  knowledge of
UNIX.  I have  them include a directory in their path
that contains a link to this programme for every popular
CMS command.
			geo swan
			integrated studies
			university of waterloo




>From decvax!watmath!jcwinterton  Mon Apr 19 21:17:17 1982
Date: Mon Apr 19 13:03:26 1982
To: decvax!ucbvax!G:cliff
Subject: net.os.whatever.

What a great idea!  We run various things here, too.  The DCS group has
three 4341's running VM with CMS, APL and other stuff.  We have a Honeywell
DPS/?? running GCOS8, this VAX 11/780 running (you know), and a whole flock
of minis and micros running some commercial stuff and some home-grown things.
I guess this amounts to a supporting vote....
	John Winterton decvax!watmath!jcwinterton
	University of Waterloo
	Math Faculty Computing Facility.



>From menlo70!hao!woods  Tue Apr 20 00:30:46 1982
To: menlo70!ucbvax!G:cliff
Subject: IBM 4341

   How does yours work? We at NCAR (National Center for Atmospheric Research)
have one too, also running VM/SP with CMS interface. Most people here don't
like it much, especially those in the systems group who spend > 50% of their
time writing EXECs just to make the user interface bearable. I hear Bell Labs
is going to come out with a UNIX for the IBM 4300 series. There is a lot of
pressure around here to look into that, because we have 3 11/70's running
UNIX right now. (One of which is node "hao" from whence this comes)

			      GREG (menlo70!hao!woods)




>From decvax!pur-ee!aef  Tue Apr 20 02:30:00 1982
Date: Mon Apr 19 09:53:54 1982
To: decvax!ucbvax!G:cliff
Subject: cms newsgroup

Cliff-
I for one would be interested.  We (Shell Development in Houston) have
at least one IBM4341-II (Shell Oil has LOTS more) and are getting Amdahl 
UTS to supplement the minimal offerings of cms.  The is a local decision,
so general ideas, comments, etc with regard to CMS would benefit our group
and others as well.  
		Art Feather (for the moment, pur-ee!aef)



>From decvax!utzoo!mleech  Thu Apr 22 10:10:54 1982
Date: Mon Apr 19 22:25:37 1982
I'll send in my vote for net.cms or net.vm or whatever.
I seem to be the ONLY person around here with the common sense and
  good taste to realized that IBM produces pretty good software
  a lot of the time.