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Article #2100Re: Question of curiosity: who is still buying Unipress or CCA?
From: Terry Poot
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1986 11:51
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1986 11:51
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We bought Unipress emacs before we were on the net, so we had not
heard of Gnu emacs. However, if I had to do it again, I'm not sure
what I'd buy. Unipress emacs only works marginally on our machine,
and Unipress is not interested in fixing it. On the other hand, Gnu
doesn't work on our machine at all (Masscomp). I haven't looked into
CCA, but after having been burned by Unipress (they CLAIM to work on
this machine), I don't know if I'd trust them anyway.
Unipress emacs does work on this machine, to a large degree (I'm
using it now), but most of the packages won't, primarily because
filter-region is broken. Thus if you use C mode and hit ESC-j to
format your file, it deletes all of your text. Some of the helper
utilities are broken as well (like collectmail, making rmail
useless). Emacs promised me a fixed version within 2 weeks when I
told them of these things (~June, 1985). Needless to say, it never
arrived. We are a binary licensee, so I can't fix it.
Rumor has it that a Masscomp port of GNU exists, so it is probably
just a matter of time before it is merged in. Until then, we limp
along with Unipress. I'm not sure I'd ever do business with them
again.
(The above is not an attack just to be nasty. There has been a lot
of praise for Unipress here lately, and they probably deserve it.
This account may present a more complete picture to those who might
be influenced in their choice of products by this discussion. Any
vendor will have a certain number of dissatisfied customers. For
what it is worth, I'm the only one I know about for Unipress emacs.
Sometimes the business interests of a company are better served by
hanging a few customers out to dry, so as to provide better service
to the rest. It doesn't help me any, but you might not have these
problems with them.)
--
Terry Poot, Nathan D. Maier Consulting Engineers, (214)739-4741
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