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>Help. I just got down to level 7 of the dungeon and was attacked by
>a shopkeeper for some unknown reason. I did nothing to provoke him
>and he just ran up a killed me in two swings. (I tried invoking the
>name of Elbereth, but it had no effect.) I wasn't even near a shop
>as far as I could tell, not had I ever entered and left any shop without
>paying. What happened? I did meet a ghost on level 6, but he finally
>left me alone.
>
>                                        The ever clumsy Gilgabit
>                                          (a.k.a. Scott A. Stewart
>                                                  LMSC - Sunnyvale)

The only time this has ever happened to me before was if I had made the
mistake of bumping into a shopkeeper in a previous game (and thereby making
him ``angry''), gotten killed by him, producing a ghost level, and then
entered that level again in a new game *with the same player name* -- that's
the key...this guy doesn't forgive, and he doesn't forget, know what I mean?
But, I've never had a shopkeeper that was angered by somebody else attack
me. Also, you can run across a shopkeeper asking you for money if you got
killed some other way on that level (or you took him down with you to some
other level that you did get killed on).

Won, but still in second place,
Diane Holt
Interactive Systems Corp.
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> Help. I just got down to level 7 of the dungeon and was attacked by
> a shopkeeper for some unknown reason. I did nothing to provoke him
> and he just ran up a killed me in two swings. (I tried invoking the
> name of Elbereth, but it had no effect.) I wasn't even near a shop
> as far as I could tell, not had I ever entered and left any shop without
> paying. What happened? I did meet a ghost on level 6, but he finally
> left me alone.

If you haven't noticed by now, hack keeps track of the goings-on when there
are several players in the dungeon.  If another player had aggravated a
shopkeeper, and say teleported the sucker away, then that shopkeeper might
wander around looking for any "@"'s to kill (ie. YOU).  Just part of the
fun!

It's a neat feature, despite this.  Last night I found the remains of a
pretty hefty Wizard who'd been killed.  After I lost his ghost in the
bushes, and blasted away the moster that had killed the poor bloke, I
collected all his treasures (they were in a pile on the ground).  I wonder
what would happen if I ran into another player while in the dungeon (:^]).

	Gelmand the Vincible
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> I prefer using a wand of digging or teleportation ...
> Sometimes a wand of polymorph will help, but then you have
> to kill the polymorphed shopkeeper.

Does killing a polymorphed shopkeeper (or guard or dog or nurse)
make you lose luck points, as you do when killing one normally?
What about eating the polymorphed corpse?

The Armoured Dormouse

>From: sas@leadsv.UUCP (Scott Stewart)
>Message-ID: <744@leadsv.UUCP>
>Organization: LMSC-LEADS, Sunnyvale, Ca.
>
>Help. I just got down to level 7 of the dungeon and was attacked by
>a shopkeeper for some unknown reason. I did nothing to provoke him
>and he just ran up a killed me in two swings. (I tried invoking the
>name of Elbereth, but it had no effect.) I wasn't even near a shop
>as far as I could tell, not had I ever entered and left any shop without
>paying. What happened? I did meet a ghost on level 6, but he finally
>left me alone.

Based on a similar experience that happened to me, I'd say that you were on
a ghost level. It would appear that, while alive, the ghost raided a shop
and escaped, forcing the shopkeeper to follow him out. It would also appear
that at the time of death, the would-be ghost must have been wearing a ring
of conflict. (The affected shopkeeper seems to retain his fellings of
conflict into the next life.

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lanin@csd2.UUCP in message <744@leadsv.UUCP> writes:
>Does killing a polymorphed shopkeeper (or guard or dog or nurse)
>make you lose luck points, as you do when killing one normally?
>What about eating the polymorphed corpse?

	I found out the hard way ...  Had a wand of polymorph,
poly'd the heck out of many,many shopkeepers,killed them, took
the money and ran.  
	Yes, if you kill/eat something that was once a shopkeeper
it *really* craps on your luck points.  So much so, that since
I had killed and eaten so many, wands of wishing would not work
for me...

				tp.
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In article <568@adelie.UUCP>, barry@adelie.UUCP (Barry A. Burke) writes:
> collected all his treasures (they were in a pile on the ground).  I wonder
> what would happen if I ran into another player while in the dungeon (:^]).

What a neat thing to add to hack! :-)
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