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I suppose the real question here is "were you wearing any armour?"
nurses are really mean if you're wearing armour.

I Have read that eating acid blobs will keep you from turning to stone.
I have eaten several suffered serious strength decrease (no ring of poison resistance) and severe hit's. (v 1.03) any one know what's going on?

Drew Herman 
her3%sphinx@gargoyle

In article <187@moncol.UUCP> john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) writes:
>With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
>getting better, however, I was killed.
>
>What happened? Is a polymorphed nurse not the real thing?

The thing with nurses is that in order for them to give you hit
points, you have to be empty handed, and totally naked.  Otherwise,
they blow you away.

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In article <187@moncol.UUCP> john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) writes:

>Playing as a caveman, I found a wand. Not knowing what it was, I zapped a
>homonculous that was clobbering me. It turned out that the wand was a wand
>of polymorph and I had polymorphed the 'h' into a nurse.
>
>With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
>getting better, however, I was killed.
>
>What happened? Is a polymorphed nurse not the real thing?
>

A nurse is a monster that will kill you.  A nurse does not help you.
A polymorphed homonculous into a nurse will kill you, becasue it is a
nurse.

Especially since the nurse is a very high-level monster.



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In article <105@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> gerber@mit-amt.UUCP (Andrew S. Gerber,,,2256511) writes:
>In article <187@moncol.UUCP> john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) writes:
>
>>Playing as a caveman, I found a wand. Not knowing what it was, I zapped a
>>homonculous that was clobbering me. It turned out that the wand was a wand
>>of polymorph and I had polymorphed the 'h' into a nurse.
>>
>>With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
>>getting better, however, I was killed.
>>
>>What happened? Is a polymorphed nurse not the real thing?
>>
>
>A nurse is a monster that will kill you.  A nurse does not help you.
>A polymorphed homonculous into a nurse will kill you, becasue it is a
>nurse.
>
>Especially since the nurse is a very high-level monster.
>

This is wrong, I know.  Please don't flame at me.  It has to do with
the fact that I learned how to play HACK's high levels with a version
of HACK which raised you up 30 levels upon eating a dead giant rat.
And also it didn't care if you were hungry.  So, whenever I saw a
nurse, I killed it.  

Perhaps the original poster still had armor on?  


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In article <187@moncol.UUCP>, john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) writes:
> 
> With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
> getting better, however, I was killed.
> 
> What happened? Is a polymorphed nurse not the real thing?
> 

  If you want a nurse to raise your hit points you need to take off all
your clothes (isn't that just like a nurse?) and unwield your weapon.

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> Something odd happened to me in a recent game that I was hoping someone on
> the net could explain.
> 
> Playing as a caveman, I found a wand. Not knowing what it was, I zapped a
> homonculous that was clobbering me. It turned out that the wand was a wand
> of polymorph and I had polymorphed the 'h' into a nurse.
> 
> With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
> getting better, however, I was killed.
> 
> What happened? Is a polymorphed nurse not the real thing?
> 
> (I am playing an early copy of PC-HACK version 1.0.3.)

We are running version 1.0.2, but I suspect things have not changed.  A
nurse is quite an unfriendly monster unless you (a) are not wielding
anything (anything at all, not just a weapon) and (b) are wearing no
armor.  Only then will the nurse help you along.

By the way, don't bother killing a nurse.  Just let it keep following
you around and pounding on you.  The results are rather pleasant.  In
fact, nurses (and, I suppose, dogs) are good reasons for saving a wand
of hasten monster (an item that otherwise is only useful as something
to sell to shopkeepers).  If you really want to get rid of a nurse,
wait for it to go away for a while -- nurses wander off and come back
occasionally -- and drop down to the next level.  The only problem is
when you get trapped with a monster you can't deal with without your
armor or a weapon.  Remember, though, that you can always go under
Elbereth, and the nurse is right there helping you as you mix it up
with the meanies.  I once fought off an umber hulk and a xorn at the
same time, bare-handed and defenseless, while two nurses helped me stay
alive.

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> 
> 
> A nurse is a monster that will kill you.  A nurse does not help you.
> A polymorphed homonculous into a nurse will kill you, becasue it is a
> nurse.
> 
> Especially since the nurse is a very high-level monster.
> 
> 
   I beg to differ. A nurse will kick your butt BUT she will also give you 
many hit points. You just have to know how to approach her - naked!
Thats right Take off all armour, wield nothing, and let her hit you.
(I hope you don't mind)

	Joseph Judge

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I polymorphed my dog into a Troll once, which worked pretty well. My
character got killed eventually, and a new character (with a
different name, by the way) encountered "Bowser."  Old Bowser was
still a Troll, all right, but I couldn't make friends with him by
throwing food to him.  Bowser took my character apart in a couple of
rounds, and that's the last I saw of either of them.
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In article <449@snow.warwick.UUCP> sfsoc@warwick.UUCP (Science Fiction + Fantasy Society) writes:
>In article <187@moncol.UUCP> john@moncol.UUCP writes:
>>Something odd happened to me in a recent game that I was hoping someone on
>>the net could explain.
>>Playing as a caveman, I found a wand. Not knowing what it was, I zapped a
>>homonculous that was clobbering me. It turned out that the wand was a wand
>>of polymorph and I had polymorphed the 'h' into a nurse.
>>With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
>>getting better, however, I was killed.
>>What happened? Is a polymorphed nurse not the real thing?
>  I think (and someone will probably verify this from source) that polymorph-
>ing creatures only alters the mode of attack, and probably hit points. I
>once polymorphed a shopkeeper into a xorn; when the xorn killed me, it took my
>possessions! This would indicate that it was still attacking as a shopkeeper?
>Does anyone have similar experiences? What about polymorphing the dog into
>something more useful? Does it still attack as a dog?
I have successfully utilised a wand of polymorph to do some fun things.  My
dog has been a fog cloud, a Gnome, a long worm, and a demon before.  I liked
it best when he was a demon- made for a really nasty pet.  And it still ate
tripe rations.  When I turned a shopkeeper into a quivering blob, he still
got angry, but when I killed him I had an ordinary corpse...  With all the
gold, of course, hee hee.  Didn't lose any powers, either, I don't think.
								Carl Greenberg

>>Playing as a caveman, I found a wand. Not knowing what it was, I zapped a
>>homonculous that was clobbering me. It turned out that the wand was a wand
>>of polymorph and I had polymorphed the 'h' into a nurse.
>>With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
>>getting better, however, I was killed.
>>What happened? Is a polymorphed nurse not the real thing?
>  I think (and someone will probably verify this from source) that polymorph-
>ing creatures only alters the mode of attack, and probably hit points. I
>once polymorphed a shopkeeper into a xorn; when the xorn killed me, it took my
>possessions! This would indicate that it was still attacking as a shopkeeper?
>Does anyone have similar experiences? What about polymorphing the dog into
>something more useful? Does it still attack as a dog?
>Pete Strover
****

The mode of attack may remain the same, but the attributes *do* change
to the new monster.  In order to be healed by a nurse, you must not
be wielding a weapon or wearing armor.  Otherwise, the nurse hits you.
Hard.

I once polymorphed my dog into a nurse.  It wouldn't hit me until I
abandoned it on it's own level for awhile until it untamed itself.
Then it worked like a real nurse.

Similarly, if you 'morph your dog into a unicorn and toss a gem to
him, he'll thank you for the gift and disappear.



				Ron
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> Does anyone have similar experiences? What about polymorphing the dog into
> something more useful? Does it still attack as a dog?
> 
  I have often wondered the same. I once saw my dog, which I had
polymorphed into a Purple worm, get killed by an imp. Needless
to say, I was a bit mystified. I doubt a real P could be killed
by an i, so I wonder.

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>>In article <187@moncol.UUCP> john@moncol.UUCP writes:
>>>Something odd happened to me in a recent game that I was hoping someone on
>>>of polymorph and I had polymorphed the 'h' into a nurse.
>>>With only a couple of hit points left, I was hit by the nurse. Instead of
>>>getting better, however, I was killed.
>I have successfully utilised a wand of polymorph to do some fun things.  My
>dog has been a fog cloud, a Gnome, a long worm, and a demon before.  I liked
>it best when he was a demon- made for a really nasty pet.  And it still ate
>tripe rations.  When I turned a shopkeeper into a quivering blob, he still
>got angry, but when I killed him I had an ordinary corpse...  With all the
>gold, of course, hee hee.  Didn't lose any powers, either, I don't think.


There are better uses for polymorph wands.  use them to polymorph unusable
corpses into edible food.  Use them on rings and wands to get the desired
type.  I find that zapping wands until I find a wand of wishing, or more
wands of polymorph, works wonders for exploring the lower levels.  you'll
see what I mean if you try it.

> > Does anyone have similar experiences? What about polymorphing the dog into
> > something more useful? Does it still attack as a dog?
> > 
>   I have often wondered the same. I once saw my dog, which I had
> polymorphed into a Purple worm, get killed by an imp. Needless
> to say, I was a bit mystified. I doubt a real P could be killed
> by an i, so I wonder.
> 
Strange, I had a pet Purple worm that very nicely trashed a shopkeeper
for me.  When I finaly killed it, it shot me up to about level 7.
-cory

> > > Does anyone have similar experiences? What about polymorphing the dog into
> > > something more useful? Does it still attack as a dog?
> > > 
> >   I have often wondered the same. I once saw my dog, which I had
> > polymorphed into a Purple worm, get killed by an imp. Needless
> > to say, I was a bit mystified. I doubt a real P could be killed
> > by an i, so I wonder.
> > 
> Strange, I had a pet Purple worm that very nicely trashed a shopkeeper
> for me.  When I finaly killed it, it shot me up to about level 7.
> -cory

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That's very interesting, but it was still a dog so why did you kill it?

*Spoiler*

With regard to naming of swords:  

	iff (the weapon is a TWO-HANDED-SWORD) and
  	    (the monster is an ORC) and
	    (the weapon is named "Orcrist") and
	    (you don't miss) then
    	  you hit the Orc "up to" 10 hit points harder.
				
Confirmed for both 1.02 and 1.03

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