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Started by Keith Cassell
Thu, 01 Aug 1985 20:16
questions about (sometimes good) bad magic
Author: Keith Cassell
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1985 20:16
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1985 20:16
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Some seemingly bad things have good effects when used correctly. For instance, there has been a posting indicating that reading a scroll of enchant armor while confused will rustproof your armor. I have yet to try this. I would be interested in hearing about other such "tricks" and will post a summary if it appears worthwhile. Is there really a silver lining around these dark clouds? What good is levitating? The only time it has been good for me is when I had to float above a cockatrice corpse, but I gather that it useful in other ways. Somebody please enlighten this poor ignorant soul. -- Keith Cassell (Dogfish) db.cassell@mcc ihnp4!ut-sally!mcc-db!cassell
Re: questions about (sometimes good) bad magic
Author: Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1985 15:00
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1985 15:00
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>....
> What good is levitating? The only time it has been good for me is when
> I had to float above a cockatrice corpse, but I gather that it useful
> in other ways. Somebody please enlighten this poor ignorant soul.
>
> --
> Keith Cassell (Dogfish)
It is useful for floating over traps (particularly if one is located by
a door that you *must* go through.
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*SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
Author: Jim Petrick
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1985 01:46
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1985 01:46
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I have been playing for a few weeks and just can't figure out how to
use some of the things I've found. I'd appreciate some hints. . .
What can you use a blank scroll for?
Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating it?
What is a potion that causes 'Your legs feel better' msg to appear
called? What does a xan do when it pricks your legs? You collapse
under your load, but your strength remains the same. Any way to avoid
these little pricks (pun intended)?
I killed a dragon, but even dropping everything, and with 18/00
strength couldn't lift it. I read in the notes that eating one had
a side effect, so how do I do it?
Is there a way to get beyond levels with mazes?
I'd also like to hear of any other clever tricks people have thought
out or discovered such as reading scrolls when confused to make them
do novel things.
The following are some neat things we've come up with playing PC-HACK
version 2.nn on a DEC Rainbow. They may not work for you.
********** SPOILER STARTS ********
How about using a haste monster on your dog?
Try eating a floating eye, then quaffing a potion of blindness.
Try the undocumented ^T command. You may need a side effect for
it to work.
Try using the heavy iron ball from a scroll of punishment as a weapon
especially good for throwing (once you get it off).
Re: *SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
Author: Tom Levin
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1985 16:14
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1985 16:14
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To: sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittatc!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!lll-crg!petrick
Subject: Re: *SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
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In article <759@lll-crg.ARPA> you write:
>
> I have been playing for a few weeks and just can't figure out how to
>use some of the things I've found. I'd appreciate some hints. . .
>
> What can you use a blank scroll for?
Absolutely Nothing
> Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating it?
No
> What is a potion that causes 'Your legs feel better' msg to appear
> called? What does a xan do when it pricks your legs? You collapse
> under your load, but your strength remains the same. Any way to avoid
> these little pricks (pun intended)?
A potion of speed will heal your legs. Also, eating royal jelly will work too.
When a xan pricks your legs he injures them so you cannot carry all of your
goodies anymore. You must either quaff a potion of speed, eat royal jelly,
or drop some stuff. You can avoid these little pricks by reading a scroll
of genocide and trashing them.
> I killed a dragon, but even dropping everything, and with 18/00
> strength couldn't lift it. I read in the notes that eating one had
> a side effect, so how do I do it?
You don't need to pick something up to eat it. Just move on top of it by
typing "m" followed by the direction. To look at what is under you type ":"
Once you are over the dragon, type "e" and you will be prompted whether you
want to eat the dragon. Munching mister dragon gives you fire resistance.
> Is there a way to get beyond levels with mazes?
No. Lowest level is 39 which is a maze.
> I'd also like to hear of any other clever tricks people have thought
> out or discovered such as reading scrolls when confused to make them
> do novel things.
Reading a scroll of teleportation while confused will teleport you to
a different level. There is more to this, but you will figure it out
if you think about it.
If you read an enchant armor or enchant weapon scroll while confused, you
will "rust-proof" the item it affects. This is good protection from R's.
Happy Hacking!
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Re: Good uses of bad magic + questions (* HEAVY SPOILER *)
Author: Andrew Klossner
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1985 16:21
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1985 16:21
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This article contains several spoilers about hack, derived from reading
the source to version 1.0.2. If you don't like spoilers, go read
something else.
"What can you use a blank scroll for?"
Absolutely nothing. (If you're confused, you "see strange patterns."
Still no effect.)
"Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating
it?"
No. Hack doesn't decide what's in the tin (by rolling random numbers)
until you successfully open it.
"What is a potion that causes 'Your legs feel better' msg to
appear called? What does a xan do when it pricks your legs?
You collapse under your load, but your strength remains the
same. Any way to avoid these little pricks (pun intended)?"
That's a potion of speed doing another of its functions: curing
"wounded legs". Both your left and right legs are either "wounded" or
"not wounded". This is independent of your strength, but is a factor
in your ability to carry and to do other things. You avoid this by
genociding xans. Another way to cure wounded legs is to eat royal
jelly.
"I killed a dragon, but even dropping everything, and with
18/00 strength couldn't lift it. I read in the notes that
eating one had a side effect, so how do I do it?"
In version 1.0.2, you stand on the dragon and type "e". Hack then says
"There is a dragon here, do you want to eat it?"
"Is there a way to get beyond levels with mazes?"
Wear a ring of teleport control, become confused, and read a teleport
scroll. Hack will ask you what level to teleport to. The deepest
level is number 39.
"I'd also like to hear of any other clever tricks people have
thought out or discovered such as reading scrolls when confused
to make them do novel things."
Keep reading this newsgroup. Much of this information has already been
posted. For example, reading an enchant weapon scroll while confused
will rustproof your weapon (acid blob splash won't hurt it), while
reading an enchant armor scroll while confused will rustproof a piece
of your armor (handy against rust monsters).
-=- Andrew Klossner (decvax!tektronix!orca!andrew) [UUCP]
(orca!andrew.tektronix@csnet-relay) [ARPA]
Re: *SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
Author: Henry Chai
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1985 02:54
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1985 02:54
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In article <759@lll-crg.ARPA> petrick@lll-crg.UUCP (Jim petrick) writes:
>
> Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating it?
>
What you get from a tin is decided randomly when you eat it.
There is a 0.5 chance that you would get spinach, and the probability
is 1/12 for each of the following (shown with their nutritional value):
rotten meat -50
empty 0
apple juice 20
peaches 40
salmon 60
nondescript substance 500
(spinach is 600)
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Henry Chai
Faculty of Library and Information Science, U of Toronto
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