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6 total messages Started by Keith Cassell Thu, 01 Aug 1985 20:16
questions about (sometimes good) bad magic
#913
Author: Keith Cassell
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1985 20:16
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Some seemingly bad things have good effects when used correctly.  For
instance, there has been a posting indicating that reading a scroll
of enchant armor while confused will rustproof your armor.  I have yet
to try this.  I would be interested in hearing about other such "tricks"
and will post a summary if it appears worthwhile.  Is there really a
silver lining around these dark clouds?

What good is levitating?  The only time it has been good for me is when
I had to float above a cockatrice corpse, but I gather that it useful
in other ways.  Somebody please enlighten this poor ignorant soul.

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					Keith Cassell (Dogfish)
db.cassell@mcc
ihnp4!ut-sally!mcc-db!cassell
Re: questions about (sometimes good) bad magic
#919
Author: Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1985 15:00
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>.... 
> What good is levitating?  The only time it has been good for me is when
> I had to float above a cockatrice corpse, but I gather that it useful
> in other ways.  Somebody please enlighten this poor ignorant soul.
> 
> -- 
> Keith Cassell (Dogfish)

It is useful for floating over traps (particularly if one is located by 
a door that you *must* go through.

-- 
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Development Corp.
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              {genrad|ihnp4|ima}!wjh12!talcott!sesame!slerner
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                                slerner%sesame@harvard.ARPA 
*SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
#924
Author: Jim Petrick
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1985 01:46
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	I have been playing for a few weeks and just can't figure out how to
use some of the things I've found.  I'd appreciate some hints. . .

	What can you use a blank scroll for?

	Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating it?

	What is a potion that causes 'Your legs feel better' msg to appear
	called?  What does a xan do when it pricks your legs? You collapse
	under your load, but your strength remains the same.  Any way to avoid
	these little pricks (pun intended)?

	I killed a dragon, but even dropping everything, and with 18/00
	strength couldn't lift it.  I read in the notes that eating one had
	a side effect, so how do I do it?

	Is there a way to get beyond levels with mazes?

	I'd also like to hear of any other clever tricks people have thought
	out or discovered such as reading scrolls when confused to make them
	do novel things.


The following are some neat things we've come up with playing PC-HACK
version 2.nn on a DEC Rainbow.  They may not work for you.


                ********** SPOILER STARTS ********


	How about using a haste monster on your dog?

	Try eating a floating eye, then quaffing a potion of blindness.

	Try the undocumented ^T command.  You may need a side effect for
	it to work.

	Try using the heavy iron ball from a scroll of punishment as a weapon
	especially good for throwing (once you get it off).
Re: *SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
#946
Author: Tom Levin
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1985 16:14
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To: sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittatc!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!lll-crg!petrick
Subject: Re: *SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
Newsgroups: net.games.hack
In-Reply-To: <759@lll-crg.ARPA>
References: <284@mcc-db.UUCP> <240@sesame.UUCP>
Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA
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In article <759@lll-crg.ARPA> you write:
>
>	I have been playing for a few weeks and just can't figure out how to
>use some of the things I've found.  I'd appreciate some hints. . .
>
>	What can you use a blank scroll for?
Absolutely Nothing

>	Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating it?
No

>	What is a potion that causes 'Your legs feel better' msg to appear
>	called?  What does a xan do when it pricks your legs? You collapse
>	under your load, but your strength remains the same.  Any way to avoid
>	these little pricks (pun intended)?
A potion of speed will heal your legs.  Also, eating royal jelly will work too.
When a xan pricks your legs he injures them so you cannot carry all of your
goodies anymore.  You must either quaff a potion of speed, eat royal jelly,
or drop some stuff.  You can avoid these little pricks by reading a scroll
of genocide and trashing them.

>	I killed a dragon, but even dropping everything, and with 18/00
>	strength couldn't lift it.  I read in the notes that eating one had
>	a side effect, so how do I do it?
You don't need to pick something up to eat it.  Just move on top of it by
typing "m" followed by the direction.  To look at what is under you type ":"
Once you are over the dragon, type "e" and you will be prompted whether you
want to eat the dragon.  Munching mister dragon gives you fire resistance.

>	Is there a way to get beyond levels with mazes?
No.  Lowest level is 39 which is a maze.

>	I'd also like to hear of any other clever tricks people have thought
>	out or discovered such as reading scrolls when confused to make them
>	do novel things.
Reading a scroll of teleportation while confused will teleport you to
a different level.  There is more to this, but you will figure it out
if you think about it.

If you read an enchant armor or enchant weapon scroll while confused, you
will "rust-proof" the item it affects.  This is good protection from R's.

			Happy Hacking!
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Re: Good uses of bad magic + questions (* HEAVY SPOILER *)
#937
Author: Andrew Klossner
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1985 16:21
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This article contains several spoilers about hack, derived from reading
the source to version 1.0.2.  If you don't like spoilers, go read
something else.

	"What can you use a blank scroll for?"

Absolutely nothing.  (If you're confused, you "see strange patterns."
Still no effect.)

	"Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating
	it?"

No.  Hack doesn't decide what's in the tin (by rolling random numbers)
until you successfully open it.

	"What is a potion that causes 'Your legs feel better' msg to
	appear called?  What does a xan do when it pricks your legs?
	You collapse under your load, but your strength remains the
	same.  Any way to avoid these little pricks (pun intended)?"

That's a potion of speed doing another of its functions: curing
"wounded legs".  Both your left and right legs are either "wounded" or
"not wounded".  This is independent of your strength, but is a factor
in your ability to carry and to do other things.  You avoid this by
genociding xans.  Another way to cure wounded legs is to eat royal
jelly.

	"I killed a dragon, but even dropping everything, and with
	18/00 strength couldn't lift it.  I read in the notes that
	eating one had a side effect, so how do I do it?"

In version 1.0.2, you stand on the dragon and type "e".  Hack then says
"There is a dragon here, do you want to eat it?"

	"Is there a way to get beyond levels with mazes?"

Wear a ring of teleport control, become confused, and read a teleport
scroll.  Hack will ask you what level to teleport to.  The deepest
level is number 39.

	"I'd also like to hear of any other clever tricks people have
	thought out or discovered such as reading scrolls when confused
	to make them do novel things."

Keep reading this newsgroup.  Much of this information has already been
posted.  For example, reading an enchant weapon scroll while confused
will rustproof your weapon (acid blob splash won't hurt it), while
reading an enchant armor scroll while confused will rustproof a piece
of your armor (handy against rust monsters).

  -=- Andrew Klossner   (decvax!tektronix!orca!andrew)       [UUCP]
                        (orca!andrew.tektronix@csnet-relay)  [ARPA]
Re: *SPOILER* Good uses of bad magic + questions
#954
Author: Henry Chai
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1985 02:54
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In article <759@lll-crg.ARPA> petrick@lll-crg.UUCP (Jim petrick) writes:
>
>	Is there any way to find out whats in a tin without eating it?
>
What you get from a tin is decided randomly when you eat it.
There is a 0.5 chance that you would get spinach, and the probability
is 1/12 for each of the following (shown with their nutritional value):
  	rotten meat		-50
  	empty			0
  	apple juice 		20
  	peaches 		40
  	salmon	 		60	
  	nondescript substance	500
(spinach is 600)
-- 
Henry Chai 
Faculty of Library and Information Science, U of Toronto
{watmath,ihnp4,allegra}!utzoo!utflis!chai        
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