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Article #1175"Kyrie Eleison considered Latin" considered bogus
From: Ken Montgomery
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1986 00:37
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1986 00:37
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[I can't get mail back to this person, so here goes...]
Really-To: kenf@uxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Real-Subject: Greek phonetic transformations ("ei" in Kyrie Eleison)
> > The song Kyrie Eleison (it's Latin, folks) by Mr. Mr. contains
> > a phrase that goes "Carry a laser down the road..."
> >
> > Chad R. Larson UUCP {terak!mot}!anasazi!chad
>
> Umm, not so. It's Greek. (I've studied both...)
>
> Ken Montgomery
>
> I don't mean to pick nits but kyrie eleison is Latin. IF it were
> Greek it would be spelled kyrie eleeson. (You could look it up).
>
> ken fortenberry
In Greek, "ee" regularly becomes "ei". Ergo, the second-person singular
aorist active imperative form of the verb "eleew", which the unwary might
expect to be "eleeson", actually appears as "eleison". (BTW, "eleew" is
a "citation form"; it's customary to list such forms in their uncontracted
states.)
Also, y's don't appear in Latin words, except for those borrowed from other
languages; thus, if you look it up, you will not find a Latin word *Kyrius,
unless your lexicographer has chosen to list borrowings.
Ken Montgomery
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