🚀 go-pugleaf

Well, it looks like my little game has been exposed.

Thank you everyone for responding.  Yes, my posting was not to be read
literally.  I found the earlier discussion concerning Woolley's "rape"
joke rather amazing.  Not just the denseness of the people who said it
could not possibly be funny, but the accusations concerning underlying
motives behind the joke.  Just putting my $.02 in seemed pointless, so
I put a whole $10, borrowed from Fr. Woolley :-), in instead!

For those of you who didn't notice the little clues, here goes:
1) The complaint was NOT cross-posted to net.motss.  A genuine complaint
   would be.
2) The subject line was "YAWJ" in the grand tradition of "YALBJ","YALP",
   "YABS","YACC", etc.
3) "... many of your readers are gay, or like gays, or both ..."  Kind
   of redundant, isn't it?
4) There were three questions, not two.  Notice how everything else is
   so carefully spelled out, and yet this mathematician couldn't count?
5) The joke was old in net.time.  Just try and find it.
6) The histrionics ("I cannot *believe*") *were* a bit much for such a
   lowly joke.  Come on, admit it!
7) Just how stupid do people get on the net?  There's a limit, isn't there?
8) Fr. Woolley did not try to defend himself, unlike the "rape" joke.  I
   tipped him off, since it wasn't he whom I was making fun of.

Go check out Adrian Kent's original posting to see what I parodied.  In
particular, my first two questions come from there.

And a special for Fr. Woolley:  It's safe to post jokes again.  But they
better be funny, daddy-o :-) !

And a special thanks to Mark P., who can unconfuse himself now:
>Strange how serious discussion is usually funnier than the jokes themselves.
>The "I've been raped" response certainly ranks up amongst the countless
>mindless attempts of rabid feminists to convince society that mankind is
>nothing a violent lower species to womankind.  And now I truly stand
>confused.  Somehow we are to believe that the simple bathroom humor of
>being desperate for toilet-paper or the like (10 $1 bills perhaps?) is
>homophobia.  Humanity truly is doomed when we lose our ability to reflect
>humorously on any event, no matter how grotesque, and certainly when we
>are so anxious to show off our zealot-like professing of weird causes at
>the slightest non-provocation.  Oh oh, I must now stand ready to bear the
>accusations, "Weird, huh!!  You know that a lot of people call homosexuals
>weird!"  Sheesh.  :-)

Here are the responses I got by mail.  I found them funny, and I hope
you do too.
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> I cannot *believe* this homophobic "joke".  What are we supposed to
> make of this gay bathroom prostitution?  I certainly fail to see any
> humor, and find this propagating of hateful stereotypes extremely
> offensive.
> 
> Please, if Catholics must go on bashing gays, do so in the privacy
> of your own churches, not on the net!
> 
> Just two questions:
> (1) Do you understand that many of your readers are gay, or like gays, or 
> both, and for that reason regard those values with contempt?
> (2) What was the "joke" doing in net.jokes? 
> (3) When do we get the difference-between-a-Jew-and-a-pizza "joke"?
> 
> ucbvax!brahms!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720

I hope you were being sarcastic, but I'm afraid you were serious.  If you
were being serious it indicates that you completely missed the joke which
has nothing to do with being gay.  The joke was about using money as a
subsitute for toilet paper.  The man stuck in the stall wanted smaller
bills (e.g. 1 dollar bills) to use as toilet paper.

You may wish to reflect on the implications of being unable to read a
joke about 2 men in a bathroom without jumping to the conclusion that
they were being mocked for being gay.
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What the hell does that joke have to do with Gays??????????????
or did you forget the smiley face?

 <and then a reply to my reply>

Yeah, I noticed your "two questions" but I thought you might have been
a homo frothing at the mouth and just got so mad you forgot how to count.
thanks for the giggle.
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I'm too square, I just didn't get the homophobe joke.

Had to read twice to get the two - 3 discrepancy.  On the net, six
smiley faces do not sarcasm make.  Your mail will be at least 3-1
against you, I predict.
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All right, color me stupid. What does that have to do with gays? I thought
the guy just would rather wipe his ass with ones than a ten.

That "joke" is on net.jokes because that's where it belongs. Do you think
it shouldn't be there just because some portion of the net doesn't find
it funny? If that were the criterion, net.jokes would die from lack of traffic.

I'm curious, though. Since the original hasn't made it here yet, was it
rotated? Certainly should have been.

I *do* usually enjoy reading your articles!
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>>Scene: a men's room.  There's a guy in one of the stalls.  Another guy
>>comes in, occupies himself.
>>...
>><Another minute passes.>
>>Guy in the stall:  Say, buddy?
>>Other guy:  Yeah?
>>Guy in the stall:  You got change for a ten?
>>
>
>I cannot *believe* this homophobic "joke"...
>

By now you've probably heard from hunnerdz en hunnerdz of folks that
this ain't no gay-basher joke. (I absolutely *cannot* understand how one
could ever take it as such!) Next time write your rebuttal, save it in
a file, and take it out the next day and see if it's still appropriate.

You'll save us all a lot of time. And money.

Thank you.
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I'm sure whether this posting is interesting satire of other
net.jokes.d offerings, or whether you actually construed this
joke to deal with homosexuals.

If the latter is correct, what causes you to believe that
it references homosexuals?
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You must be putting us on!  How can you suppose that this is a
joke about gays?  If that were the meaning of the punch line it
would be a total non-sequitur.  If you really do understand the
joke and you are just making a new joke of your own, you did a
poor job of it.
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>><Another minute passes.>
>>Guy in the stall:  Say, buddy?
>>Other guy:  Yeah?
>>Guy in the stall:  You got change for a ten?
>>
>
>I cannot *believe* this homophobic "joke".  What are we supposed to
>make of this gay bathroom prostitution?  I certainly fail to see any
>humor, and find this propagating of hateful stereotypes extremely
>offensive.
>
>Just two questions:
>(1) Do you understand that many of your readers are gay, or like gays, or 
>both, and for that reason regard those values with contempt?
>(2) What was the "joke" doing in net.jokes? 
>(3) When do we get the difference-between-a-Jew-and-a-pizza "joke"?
>
>ucbvax!brahms!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720

Dude!  You really fouled up.  I will refrain from making your ingnorance
public, because someone else no doubt will.

Don't you get it?  The guy needed to wipe his ass, there was no paper, so
he wanted to use money.  HA HA HA HA HA!  Humour, not homophobia, by the
gods.  Persecution complex, anyone?

			love and kisses,
				[    ]

P.S.  Even if it were offensive to you, why bitch about it in front of
so many people?  This subject has gone around and around in net.jokes.d
hundreds of times.  It is a waste of time to moan about jokes that one
doesn't like, a) because someone else no doubt finds it funny and unoffensive,
and b) the jokes will keep getting posted anyway.  And even c) you leave
yourself wide open to lambasting from the likes of me :-)

P.P.S  Perhaps your posting was "joke" ?
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I'm not sure how you saw the joke, but my immediate interpretation was that if
I were stuck in that situation a single $10 would not be enough, BUT now if I
could get ten 1's, that would save the day.  I didn't even think I would be
asking for anything more.  I just thought I would contribute a (non outraged)
reply.
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And for those who have read this far, I hope you had fun!  I sure did.

(Although I was disappointed that no one except Gene Ward Smith helped to
spread the confusion.  Sigh.)


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ucbvax!brahms!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720