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Re: Turbo Pascal for the Macintosh

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From: alan i. vymetalik
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1986 06:30
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>	This is all very interesting.... a response has appeared on the board
>before my post has even appeared there! But anyway....

   This happens sometimes due to the nature of the net.  'Most paths
   are equal.  Some are more equal than others.'  Depending on the
   route a posting has taken, I have had answers appear a day before
   the question arrives at my site.  VERY disturbing.  Sorta like
   time travel...

>Turbo Pascal for the Macintosh has been promised for MONTHS, and now, they're
>just getting around to advertising it...In those months, my view of Borland
>was been shaken a bit.

   Don't feel bad.  Turbo C and Turbo Modula-2 are two packages Borland
   has hinted and nudged about.  They 'may' be the products that will
   be announced at COMDEX: "Release of a previously committed project."

   My feelings towards Borland has always fluttered around uneasy.  If
   they manage to produce an optimizing Pascal compiler that can link
   into libraries and allow me access to the full address space of the
   machine, I'll continue to use Turbo.  However, a lot of my work is
   being converted to C.  So, I think C is where I'll stay.   :-(

>My favorite Pascal compiler is Lightspeed Pascal for the Macintosh. It offers
>high compilation speed (I've measured about 7000 lines per minute for my
>code)...
 
   While I confess I do not have much time anymore to play with a
   Macintosh (I started programming on them when they first came out...
   don't have enough free time anymore), I still think the machine 
   is an incredible piece of hardware (especially the Plus).  Anyway,
   I don't care what machine it is...7000 lpm is FAST.  

>>large memory model
>
>Can you explain that? Is that just a compatibility thing for Turbo for the
>PC? Otherwise, a "Large Memory Model" makes no sense on a nonsegmented
>machine like the Macintosh (sorry, slight slam at the PC there.. 8-) ).
>Unless you're talking about long-worded addressing, which (in my opinion),
>ALL compilers should do...

   Ah, here's where the MS-DOS world has brain damaged me!... After
   doing so much programming and re-inventing the wheel working with
   the damned Intel processor (8088, 80286) family, I completely
   forgot that there are other REAL machines out there.  Yes, I hang
   my head in submission...these processors can be downright confusing
   sometimes.  What I meant to ask was the compiler's capability of
   accessing the entire address space available to the processor.
   A full 32-bit microprocessor, such as the 80386, has an INCREDIBLE
   amount a memory addresses at its beck and call.  Any compiler that
   cannot talk to each byte of memory is a waste.

>I've not heard about Turbo 4.0 for the PC....The public clusters here have
>Turbo 3.0.....

   Has anyone?  Any Co-ops out there who have worked for Borland want
   to spill the beans?   Just kidding, folks!  I commend the silence
   on the insiders who exist on the net..but, the waiting is ridiculous.

>		--Rich

   Thanks, Rich.


   Enjoy,
   Alan

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Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for the Macintosh
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