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Article #247Re: Availability of CEDAR?
From: J. Peter Alfke
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1986 07:36
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1986 07:36
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Organization : California Institute of Technology
In article <746@aimmi.UUCP> andrew@aimmi.UUCP (Andrew Stewart) writes:
>
>I have heard a great deal about a system called CEDAR which has been developed
>at Xerox PARC as a follow-on to much of their work on Interlisp, Smalltalk,
>etc. I heard a rumour that there a machine available, for a fairly sensible
>price, running CEDAR. Is this true? Who makes it, and where can I contact
>them?
>If not, where can I get hold of documentation about CEDAR (other than the short
>papers that keep popping up in conference proceedings)?
Cedar ("Not an acronym, but an amazing simulation") is a follow-up to Xerox's
Tajo environment (aka XDE, Xerox Development Environment), which is a nifty
windowing system for and in Mesa, a sort of hyper-Pascal. I've worked with
Tajo (at Xerox) and it's way rockin'.
Cedar added neat stuff, some of it inspired by Smalltalk, most of it
apparently debugging sort of stuff, graphical debugging and all that. I
have never used or seen it.
Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) must have some "Blue-and-White"
reports on Cedar; you could write to them and ask.
Cedar should run on the new Xerox Daybreak (I forget the numbers) machines.
They are pretty reasonably priced, comparable to Suns I believe. I can
believe in easily available versions of Cedar; the Mesa people at Xerox
are somewhat less psychotic than the Smalltalk people (I'm talkin' PARC,
now, not the swell folks at Pasadena).
--Peter Alfke
alfke@csvax.caltech.edu
alfke@cit-vax.uucp
(I respect a company that makes up
non-acronym names for things!)
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!cit-vax!alfke From: alfke@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (J. Peter Alfke) Newsgroups: net.lang.st80 Subject: Re: Availability of CEDAR? Message-ID: <348@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: Tue, 1-Apr-86 02:36:35 EST Article-I.D.: cit-vax.348 Posted: Tue Apr 1 02:36:35 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Apr-86 01:23:00 EST Reply-To: alfke@cit-vax.UUCP (J. Peter Alfke) Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 36