🚀 go-pugleaf

I have recently been involved in setting up a mailsystem connecting HARVARD,
a 4.2BSD Unix 780 on the internet, to other machines here at Harvard.
All this guff about sendmail config files is starting to hit me;  This is
a problem we're faced with here.

Here is an example of a recent incoming message that illustrates some
of the problems.  Perhaps someone out there can make some suggestions
as to who is to blame for the following headers, and what can be done.

The first message is in the exact form that harvard transmitted it.
To harvard, our machine appears as a "fake" uucp address;  LHASA is a
VAX/VMS machine running software which I wrote to pick the necessary
files out of Harvard's uucp spool directories and deliver them on
the VMS machine.

--------------- Begin forwarded message #1 -----------------

>From @MIT-MC.ARPA:@SRI-KL.ARPA:engvax!KVC@cit-vax  Thu Apr 19 02:26:57 1984 remote from harvard
Received: from cit-vax.ARPA by SRI-KL.ARPA with TCP; Wed 18 Apr 84 22:36:18-PST
Received: by cit-vax.ARPA id AA03064 at Wed, 18 Apr 84 16:09:33 pst
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 84 16:09:33 pst
From: harvard!engvax!KVC@cit-vax.ARPA
Message-Id: <8404190009.AA03064@cit-vax.ARPA>
To: ."cit-vax!info-vax@sri-kl.arpa"@ENGVAX.ARPA
Subject: Re: lost batch jobs...

<body of message deleted>

	/Kevin Carosso                  engvax!kvc @ CIT-VAX
	 Hughes Aircraft Co.

---------------  End forwarded message #1  -----------------

For those who are interested, this is the form the message takes when
it appears in my VMS mail file.

--------------- Begin forwarded message #2 -----------------
From:	HARVARD!@MIT-MC.ARPA:@SRI-KL.ARPA:engvax!KVC@cit-vax 19-Apr-1984 02:26
To:	."cit-vax!info-vax@sri-kl.arpa"@ENGVAX.ARPA
Subj:	Re: lost batch jobs...
Received: by lhasa via VAXNET; Thu Apr 19 02:44:15 1984
Received: from cit-vax.ARPA by SRI-KL.ARPA with TCP; Wed 18 Apr 84 22:36:18-PST
Received: by cit-vax.ARPA id AA03064 at Wed, 18 Apr 84 16:09:33 pst
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 84 16:09:33 pst
From: harvard!engvax!KVC@cit-vax.ARPA
Message-Id: <8404190009.AA03064@cit-vax.ARPA>

<body of message deleted>

	/Kevin Carosso                  engvax!kvc @ CIT-VAX
	 Hughes Aircraft Co.

---------------  End forwarded message #2  -----------------

Now.  The problems should be obvious.  I want to respond to an address
something like harvard!"engvax!kvc"@cit-vax, I think.  And if I want to
CC the list, it does NOT want to go to

"cit-vax!info-vax@sri-kl.arpa"@ENGVAX.ARPA

ENGVAX isn't even on ARPA!!!

Someone has to translate these to things like:

	<@HARVARD: engvax!kvc@CIT-VAX.ARPA>

and

	<@CIT-VAX: INFO-VAX@SRI-KL.ARPA>.

Are my interpretations of RFC822 correct?  I assume that the problems
on both ends could be corrected by changes to the sendmail config files...
I should of course say that I am not blaming anyone at CIT;  the same
sort of malformed header will be visible on the message that you
receive from me.

Stew Rubenstein

ARPA: lhasa!stew@harvard.arpa
UUCP: {allegra!ima,decvax!genrad!wjh12}!harvard!lhasa!stew
MAIL: Harvard University Chemical Labs
      12 Oxford St.  Box 100
      Cambridge, MA  02138