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Article #635Non-domain host names in mail
From: Rich Wales
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1986 05:05
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1986 05:05
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[NOTE: I had planned to send this message out several weeks ago, but a
mail problem at MC.LCS.MIT.EDU -- which apparently put the Header-People
mailing list out of commission for a while -- got in the way. Apologies
for any of the following information which is out of date. -- RBW]
Here's yet another chapter in the ongoing saga of "bad" and "semi-bad"
host names in mail. This message has to do with "non-domain-style" host
names (i.e., nicknames which appear in the NIC host name table, but
which do not contain periods). A subsequent message will discuss host
names which do not appear in the NIC table at all.
The following non-domain-style host names were observed in connection
with mail received by LOCUS.UCLA.EDU between 6 December 1985 and 15 Jan-
uary 1986.
Most of these names could be converted into valid (i.e., defined)
domain-style names by adding ".ARPA" to them. Those names which do not
occur with the ".ARPA" suffix in the NIC host name table are indicated
by asterisks.
Since non-domain-style host names are NEVER going to be listed in the
domain data base, I would strongly encourage the hosts listed below to
stop using them NOW and use the correct domain-style names instead.
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* I would also again urge the NIC to set a deadline for phasing *
* all non-domain-style names out of the host name table. (Note *
* that I am NOT advocating that ALL nicknames be removed -- only *
* that nicknames without periods be removed.) No matter what *
* anyone may say about transition to the domain data base -- and *
* no matter what anyone may say about only using a host's *
* "official" name -- the fact remains that as long as these names *
* appear in the table, people are going to continue to use them. *
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Also, I would suggest again to those hosts which are using the domain
data base that -- when they see a non-domain-style nickname in a mail
address -- they should try adding ".ARPA" to the name and look up the
result in the data base before giving up. This should be thought of as
a temporary "hack", to get around the unfortunate fact that it is likely
to be some time before non-domain-style nicknames have been utterly and
completely eradicated from our midst.
Before anyone asks: I am NOT going to try to send individual letters to
system adminstrators about this issue this time. The last time I did
this, I got very few responses. Most people seemed to simply ignore me
(witness the size of the lists below!). One person (who shall remain
nameless unless he chooses to make himself known) even said he planned
to keep on using his non-domain-style nickname, because he liked to make
waves! Predictably, said host is still on my list, and the wizard in-
volved is no doubt very proud of this fact. Sigh.
My apologies for any typos which might have made it into this list.
Also, my apologies if any hosts listed below have since fixed things.
Again, host names indicated below with (*) do not have ".ARPA" counter-
parts; an attempt (as described above) to make sense of these names by
tacking ".ARPA" onto them would fail.
(1) Non-domain-style host names used in return addresses of mail:
Name used Domain-style name
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AERO (*) AEROSPACE.ARPA
AIDS-UNIX AIDS-UNIX.ARPA
BBNCCM BBNCCM.ARPA, CCM.BBN.COM
BBNCCP BBNCCP.ARPA
CIT-750 CIT-750.ARPA, CIT-750.CALTECH.EDU
FORD-WDL1 FORD-WDL1.ARPA
GLACIER (*) SU-GLACIER.ARPA, GLACIER.STANFORD.EDU
GSWD-VMS GSWD-VMS.ARPA
HPLABSD (*) HPLABS.ARPA
LASSPVAX LASSPVAX.ARPA, LASSPVAX.TN.CORNELL.EDU
MEDEA (*) MEDEA.BERKELEY.EDU
NRL-AIC NRL-AIC.ARPA
PARCVAX PARCVAX.ARPA, PARCVAX.XEROX.COM
SRI-SPAM SRI-SPAM.ARPA
SRI-UNIX SRI-UNIX.ARPA
SU-PSYCH SU-PSYCH.ARPA, PSYCH.STANFORD.EDU
TOR (*) NTA-VAX.ARPA
UMN-UCC-VA UMN-UCC-VA.ARPA
YALE-VENUS YALE-VENUS.ARPA
(2) Non-domain-style host names used in SMTP HELO commands:
Name used Address Domain-style name
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ALMSA-1 26.1.0.61 ALMSA-1.ARPA
ATHENA (*) 18.58.0.1 MIT-ATHENA.ARPA, ATHENA.MIT.EDU
BBNCCM 8.7.0.14 BBNCCM.ARPA, CCM.BBN.COM
BBNCCP 8.2.0.4 BBNCCP.ARPA
FORD-WDL1 128.5.32.1 FORD-WDL1.ARPA
GLACIER (*) 36.40.0.205 SU-GLACIER.ARPA, GLACIER.STANFORD.EDU
HPLABSD 192.5.58.10 HPLABS.ARPA
MEDEA (*) 128.32.0.15 UCBMEDEA.ARPA, MEDEA.BERKELEY.EDU
MEDIA-LAB 18.85.0.2 MEDIA-LAB.ARPA, MEDIA-LAB.MIT.EDU
MIT-EDDIE 18.62.0.6 MIT-EDDIE.ARPA, EDDIE.MIT.EDU
NRL-AIC 26.1.0.8 NRL-AIC.ARPA
NRL-CSS 192.5.17.112 NRL-CSS.ARPA
PREP (*) 128.52.22.14 MIT-PREP.ARPA, PREP.AI.MIT.EDU
SU-PSYCH 36.36.0.202 SU-PSYCH.ARPA, PSYCH.STANFORD.EDU
UCBARPA (*) 10.0.0.78 UCB-ARPA.ARPA, UCBARPA.BERKELEY.EDU
YALE (*) 10.2.0.9 YALE-GW.ARPA
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3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
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