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Article #1061Re: SUID Patent
From: Ed Gould
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1986 22:17
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1986 22:17
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>> The first time I hears of the SUID I thought "what a nifty general
>> way to do JACCT"...
>
>The Kronos operating system for the CDC 6000 also had things similar to
>the SUID bit. An system command could have various special "entry points"
>that gave them special priviledges even when run by ordinary users. ...
>
>As far as I can see, the only innovation in UNIX SUID stuff is that the
>priviledges inherited can be those of any user, not just some "super user",
>as determined by file ownership. Personally, I don't this this ought to be
>enough to justify a patent.
Lots of people have given examples of things that other systems did that
are subsumed by the set-uid bit. The examples vary fairly widely,
but they seem to have a common thread: There have been ways to do
priveliged functions in the past, so what's so new about set-uid?
It seems to me that what's new is the complete generalization of privilege.
In the Kronos example, above, note that a "system command could have...".
This allows the (necessarily) privileged system maintainers to designate
a privileged program. Set-uid allows *any* user to say "during the
execution of this program, which *I* have so designated, you may have
*my* permissions."
Is there a feature elsewhere that allows this?
--
Ed Gould mt Xinu, 2560 Ninth St., Berkeley, CA 94710 USA
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