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Article #2592Re: Re: Re: C128 vs Apple //e
From: Rick N. Fincher
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1986 13:49
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1986 13:49
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> >
> >>
> >> Can you get a 4.08 MHz accelerator for the Apple (which is what you'd need
> >> for twice the speed of the C128)? Last I heard no one's delivering 6502s in
> >> production quantity that are speced to run above 3MHz.
> > Most accelerators for the Apple // run at 3.6 mhz because it is a di n
> > even division of the 14mhz system clock. The 65C02 used is actually
> > a 4mhz chip (available from Rockwell, GTE or WDC). I think that the
> > Western Design Center is getting production yields on 6mhz 65802's
> > which are pin compatible with the 65C02 and 65816's which are used
> > in the //gs.
>
>
> Not quite. First of all, WDC doesn't make production silicon at all, I
> think they may even farm out much of their prototype work. GTE makes all
> of the 65SC816 parts; they've finally got the 4MHz part in reasonable
> quantities, though they're still expensive. I haven't heard anything
> positive on anything faster from them. Also, GTE only has 3MHz 65C02's
> in production quantities. They can get you 4MHz parts, but these are
> hand picked 3MHz parts. They're redesigning their 65C02 for real 4MHz
> operation, and expect to have that ready by early '87. WDC still doesn't
> have production quantities of any silicon product. I'm not sure how fast
> Rockwell parts are working (of course, they only make 65C02 and 6502),
> though Rockwell is in the process of de-emphasizing their 6502 lines in
> favor of 16 bit and greater chips (much to the approval of GTE, who's
> apparently firmly comitted to the 65C02 families as long as they're selling
> as well as they are).
>
> > Rick
> --
> ============================================================================
> Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh
> "Techno-Hippie, heathen, designing evil computers"
>
> These opinions are my own, though if you try them out, and decide
> that you really like them, a small donation would be appreciated.
I burned out the 4mhz 65C02 in my accelerator over a year ago and bought
a replacement off the shelf for less than $12 (single unit) it was a
Rockwell chip but the supplier said GTE was available too at the same
price, but he didn't have any in stock. Bill Mensch said more than a
year ago that the parts WDC was shipping were all 4mhz (even when 1 or
2 mhz were ordered), I don't know who manufactured these parts, but you
are right, WDC sends all of their fabrication work out.
Rick
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