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I am looking for a mouse for an Apple //c, and I have seen both the
Apple mouse, and the A+ mouse which is supposed to be an "optical"
mouse..  Does anyone have any comments or suggestions about either
version?  Thanks... Paul Nakada

nakada@husc4.UUCP
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nakada@harvsc4.BITNET

In article <550@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> nakada@husc4.UUCP (paul nakada) writes:
>As an owner of a very early release of the Apple //c, I have now come
>across the need to upgrade to the new 3.5 unidisk.  As a result of
>having bought an early version, though, I have the "old" ROMS which
>do not support unidisk 3.5 or any of the other goodies on the new
>32K ROMs.

For starters, if you buy a Unidisk 3.5 your dealer is supposed to give
you a free //c upgrade.  (Read: swaps your motherboard out, and isn't
supposed to tell you that.)  I have an old motherboard too, and this
annoys me because if you have an old //c, you could: 1) cut a solder
joint, 2) make a solder bridge, and 3) replace a ROM, and poof!  The
//c can talk to a 3.5.

However, you should consider a dealer trade because new //cs have the
facility for the //c 1 Meg card.  (These newer //cs can be identified
by a platinum keyboard and/or case.  (Apple still has white cases
left.))  Thus the //c is now on its fourth major revision.  To check
for a newer motherboard easily, turn on the //c and type "pr#4".  It
will respond with "UNABLE TO START UP FROM MEMORY CARD" if it's the
latest //c.

Roger Shimada
ihnp4!meccts!rms

In article <550@husc6.HARVARD.EDU> nakada@husc4.UUCP (paul nakada) writes:
>I am thoroughly
>tired of the runaround I get at "authorized apple dealers" who look
>puzzled at the thought of "OLD" apple //c roms..  
>Thanks....  Paul Nakada
>

I suggest you make a copy of this and take it to you dealer.  This is
for everyone who might ever have this problem.

Tell your dealer to look in his "Apple Service Programs", section
"product notices".  The current rev is 8/1/86

On page 8.1.2:

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Apple IIc, ROM Upgrade for UniDisk 3.5 - ODL660   (Anounced May 86)


A new moniter ROM is required in order to utilize the a UniDisk 3.5 with
an Apple IIc.  Apple IIc systems have serial numbers like F605XXX.  NOTE:
Those systems with the first three numeric characters higher than 605 
contain the new ROM.  These systems do not require an upgrade to be
campatible with UniDisk 3.5.  For example, F606XXX indicates a system
containing the new ROMS.  These systems are also identified by this icon
label on the back panel: [Apple left it out :-)]

Customers who purchased Apple IIc systems with serial numberrs lower than
F6055XXX and who purchase the UniDisk 3.5 require a ROM upgrade.
Exchange the customer's logic board with an upgrade service board free
of charge.

You will be reimbursed for this exchange as a warranty transaction.  To
obtain reimbursement, submit serial numbers of both the Apple IIc and
the UniDisk on an SRO stating the authorization code "ODL660" on the
OTHER line in the warranty information section.


NOTE:  The Service Stock upgrade program announced at product
introduction has expired.

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I suggest that Authorized Apple Dealers read this section more often,
rather than concentrating on sales alone.  Also, to the cutomer, it is
often very helpful to talk to the technician, not the sales rep, as the
technician is much more like to understand intelligent questions (well,
maybe you better edit this a little :-))


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> having bought an early version, though, I have the "old" ROMS which
> do not support unidisk 3.5 or any of the other goodies on the new
> 32K ROMs..  Does anyone know where I can get them.. I am thoroughly
> tired of the runaround I get at "authorized apple dealers" who look
> puzzled at the thought of "OLD" apple //c roms..  
> Thanks....  Paul Nakada
> 
Paul,

The motherboard upgrade is free when you buy the new drives, if you
need the new board.  If your "Authorized Apple Dealer" doesn't know
that, tell him to call and find out.  Then make them give you your 
new motherboard.

In article <551@husc6.HARVARD.EDU>, nakada@husc4.harvard.edu (paul nakada) writes:
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> I am looking for a mouse for an Apple //c, and I have seen both the
> Apple mouse, and the A+ mouse which is supposed to be an "optical"
> mouse..  Does anyone have any comments or suggestions about either
> version?  Thanks... Paul Nakada

The A+ optical mouse has to have a reflector pad under it to work.  It
has no moving parts, so I guess it is less likely to wear out but it
doesn't slide as smoothly as the roller-type mouse.  I have heard that
the optical mouse is not as sensitive as the Apple Mouse, but I can't
verify that, and I don't know that it really matters.  That may be a
personal preference.  I would try one out before I bought one.  B.
Dalton's Book Stores carry them.

Rick Fincher
ranger@ecsvax

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