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Article #1223re: Amiga and ST (important comparisons?)
From: Charles L Ditzel
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1985 04:05
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1985 04:05
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>From: gary@cirl.UUCP (Gary Girzon)
>Newsgroups: net.micro.atari,net.micro.amiga
>Subject: re: Amiga and ST (important comparisons?)
Re: Demar's comparisons:
>How does one arrive at the magic 70% time figure?
I would be interested in knowing this too.
>The ST does not offer an alternative to GEM for a "real" user
>environment. Icons may be more user friendly for applications,
>but real software development is much more efficient given a
>"shell" environment.
The ST *does* have an alternative to GEM in two forms (that i know of):
1) Command.com - which is included with the developer's
kit.
2) commercial shells - for example a shell is supplied with
Haba C and allows various unix-like commands such
as ls,rm,mv,cp,etc...and redirection. It also includes
a set of unix-like directories such as usr,bin,lib, etc.
You may add commands to your shell by putting the
executable to your new commands in bin.
These are the only two shells I am aware of but they do offer an
alternative to GEM.
I believe Aztec C offers a very nice unix-like shell for the Mac
and will soon offer it for the Amiga (according to the sales rep
i talked to they are also planning on Aztec C for the ST).
(by the way i am in NO way affiliated with Aztec...)
By the way I am one of those people that believe both Commodore/Amiga
and Atari made a mistake by not putting some form of windowing OS9
into their machines. Hopefully this will come but why didn't they
save us all alot of trouble.
Sidelight: in command.com - ls and cat seem to work on my version??
One day i forgot i was no longer on unix typed in ls and
it worked! must be some kind of alias.
cd
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ssc-bee.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ssc-bee!ditzel From: ditzel@ssc-bee.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari Subject: re: Amiga and ST (important comparisons?) Message-ID: <395@ssc-bee.UUCP> Date: Sun, 13-Oct-85 00:05:52 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-bee.395 Posted: Sun Oct 13 00:05:52 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Oct-85 05:27:56 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 42