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Article #1358Re: questions : os9,unix,rumors
From: Henry Spencer
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1985 20:57
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1985 20:57
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> I must say that I find it quite hard to believe that NatSemi is already coming
> out with the 32332 already, when they haven't even come out with the 32132
> or the 32232 yet(Yes, these are actual scheduled components).
Last I heard, the 32232 was no longer a real part, and the 32132 is a minor
upgrade of the 32032. The plans got reshuffled a while ago: make sure you
have the up-to-date word. Yes, the 32332 is coming, and looks interesting.
Non-disclosure prevents me from saying more. (Except that they'd better
get the 32332 out fast without major bugs if they want any market share!)
> This argument is moot anyway for one reason. The 68020 is considerably faster
> because the original 68000 is very bus bound, while the 20 is much less so.
Let me see. You're saying that because the 68000 had no prefetch queue and
a 16-bit bus, and the 68020 fixes both of those problems, that the 68020 is
better than the National 32-bit chips? Does not compute: the National chips
have had prefetch queues all along, and the 32-bit ones have had a 32-bit
bus all along. The 68020 is a vast improvement on the 68000 in this regard,
but that is utterly irrelevant to comparing it against the 32000s.
> ... Also, a memory cycle
> on the NS series and the 68000 is 4 cycles, as opposed to the twenty, which is
> 3 for main memory, and 2 for the 256 byte queue.
Let me know if you can find a 68020 system that really does a main-memory
fetch in 3 cycles. It's extremely difficult to build low-cost main memory
that can run that fast (although caches can help). Don't forget to add the
delay for memory management.
--
Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
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