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> Has anyone with an Atari ST development system located a decent (hopefully
> inexpensive) editor yet?  

If you bought the software developers package you should be getting MicroEmacs.
Otherwise there is another emacs clone, Mince, which is available.

MicroEmacs (ME) and Mince are very similar, with the following exceptions:

1) Mince can operate on very large files, using a temporary swap file
and a virtual memory mapping scheme. ME is like most micro text editors,
it can only operate on files that fit in RAM.

2) ME can open up more than 2 windows, MINCE is limited to 2.

3) ME has a macro feature, MINCE doesn't.

4) ME will fit on your C compiler disk, MINCE doesn't (at least not with the
standard 64K swap file.) This makes a difference if you, like me, are currently
stuck with 1 single sided drive.

5) ME is supposed to retail for around $50, MINCE sells for about $120.

Conclusion: either one is reasonable for text editing. Neither one is a
GEM application, nor do they exactly knock your socks off. Price is certainly
a factor. If you go for the software developers package, don't bother with
MINCE.
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A local dealer needs help.
He has been trying to get some software on his shelves for the ST for
about three weeks.  He is getting a lot of 'Real Soon Now's but nothing
for his shelves.

Can anybody give me the names of some titles he can get right now?

The product should be something which you can buy now, the magazine ads
haven't yielded any thing but some text adventure games.

If you have purchased the product, please describe your impressions of it.

If you have seen demonstrations, please describe your impressions.

If you have written 'public domain' stuff, would you be willing to have
it sold?

No "Demo's", there are enough of those included already.

Most urgent needs are some sort of communications package with binary
download capability.

In article <255@ccivax.UUCP> rb@ccivax.UUCP (rex ballard) writes:
>Most urgent needs are some sort of communications package with binary
>download capability.

I called Atari, and they claim that they are shipping Kermit with
the C compiler/assembler/linker package.  I don't know if this
version can do binary downloads or just 7-bit, and don't much
care, as so many mailer systems chew up 8-bit files.  A version
of the binhex 4.0 protocol (Macintosh 8-bit to 7-bit file coding)
would be nice....

("What's this Kermit thing?".  Kermit is a communications protocol
developed at Columbia University to facilitate transmission of text
files between mainframes and micros.  Many versions support 8-bit
file transfer. It has good error-checking, although it is slow. 
	Kermit is available for damn near everything:  if
you want your Cray-1 to talk to your Commodore 64, they both speak
Kermit.  Kermit is available through many user's groups.  Columbia
U. will NOT supply disks with Kermit on it to people.  They do 
sell tapes with the entire Kermit collection (mainframe and micro),
if you need to bootstrap it.  okstate and cu20b have Kermit online
in various versions for uucp and ftp, respectively.)
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