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     I think that you've misheard.  Byte's not folding.  Creative Computing
apparently is folding.  Furthermore, Popular Computing is folding and
apparently Hot CoCo is folding (although I expect Hot CoCo will be absorbed
into 80 Micro again).  There may be others biting the dust too fairly soon.

     One magazine that is still going is 68 Micro Journal.  If you're
interested in the 68000 processor family, this magazine will probably
be of value.  Right now it's mainly 6809, but covering OS-9, Flex, C (at
a fairly advanced level).  I'd hope that the next year will bring Atari
support as well, but it's hard to forcast.  The Mac never seemed to develop
much interest in this magazine, but then the Mac was never promoted as a
'hackers' computer.

                                            Cheers! -- Jim O.

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RE: folding

	".. Creative Computing is soon to print its last issue.."

Guess which magazine Ziff Davis stuck me with when "Computers & Electronics"
was killed.

Z.D. has pulled THREE magazines from under me in about as many years.

(Then FNE went commercial and pulled "DTACK Grounded".)

						harold ravlin
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In article <7500005@uicsl> hr@uicsl.UUCP writes:
>RE: folding
>	".. Creative Computing is soon to print its last issue.."
>Guess which magazine Ziff Davis stuck me with when "Computers & Electronics"
>was killed.
>Z.D. has pulled THREE magazines from under me in about as many years.
>(Then FNE went commercial and pulled "DTACK Grounded".)

Recent news story says that McGraw Hill is buying Ziff's computer 'zine
line from them.  Creative et al may have just been given a new lease on 
life, although the probable re-casting into BYTE's mold may destroy what 
VERY! little of them Ziff-Davis left.

					Bob Halloran
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In article <7500005@uicsl> hr@uicsl.UUCP writes:
>RE: folding
>
>	".. Creative Computing is soon to print its last issue.."
>Z.D. has pulled THREE magazines from under me in about as many years.
>(Then FNE went commercial and pulled "DTACK Grounded".)

(The above has been a bit edited)

     While there are a number of Atari Magazines available, may
I suggest that those interested in 68000 technology also look into
(and hopefully buy) 68 Micro Journal.  It's main thrust is single
board computers, and *all* Motorola chipsets.  It has supported the
Radio Shack Color Computer well in the past and I expect it would
support the Atari as well, if Atari users supported it.  There is
a very important roll that this magazine has played for the Color
Computer and can play for the 520ST users.  They are *not* biased
and call a spade a spade.  They have been openly critical when deserved.
The value of that as opposed to the rose-color glasses approach of
most magazines is refreshing.  The extremely high quality writing
is also.  How many other magazines have been able to boast a long
running series on Ada (5 parts so far)?  Few magazines have printed as
much on the 'C' language.  Flex, Uniflex and OS-9 are supported in
6809 and 68000 family forms.  I hope you support the various dedicated
Atari magazines as well, but don't overlook the wider picture.

                                         Cheers! -- Jim O.

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RE:
    " While there are a number of Atari Magazines available, may
I suggest that those interested in 68000 technology also look into
(and hopefully buy) 68 Micro Journal."

Here is a partially dissenting opinion. I recently subscribed to
68 Micro and was disappointed. Most of it seemed directed towards
the 6809 with relatively little on the 68K. If I had a 6809 system,
I'd probably like it more. As it stands, I'd rather read Antic and
Analog. Since I have a year's subscription, I should have plenty of
time to change my mind. (It does NOT seem to be a game of the month
rag, but more 'serious'.) I was interested in the 68020 single board
system ads that are beginning to appear there.

						harold ravlin
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In article <7500006@uicsl> hr@uicsl.UUCP writes:
>
>RE:
>    " While there are a number of Atari Magazines available, may
>I suggest that those interested in 68000 technology also look into
>(and hopefully buy) 68 Micro Journal."
>
>Here is a partially dissenting opinion. I recently subscribed to
>68 Micro and was disappointed. Most of it seemed directed towards
>the 6809 with relatively little on the 68K. If I had a 6809 system,
>I'd probably like it more. As it stands, I'd rather read Antic and
>Analog. Since I have a year's subscription, I should have plenty of
>time to change my mind. (It does NOT seem to be a game of the month
>rag, but more 'serious'.) I was interested in the 68020 single board
>system ads that are beginning to appear there.
>
>						harold ravlin


     No there isn't a lot there for Atari people yet.  If the readership
builds, then we can expect that there will be.  Keep in mind that much
of what's put into 68 Micro J. comes from us readers.  As such, what
they're waiting for is submissions as well as subscribers.  If you have
something to share with others, then 68 Micro could be a nice vehicle
because it tends to be more open and less biased (notice how *many*
different systems are already supported?).  A lot of high tech'ers
are not on and probably never will be on Usenet.  BIX and CIS can be
too expensive as well.  Good magazines are cheaper and reach more
people.

                                        Cheers -- Jim O.

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