520 ST SOFTWARE

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2 total messages Started by mccamy Wed, 29 Jan 1986 15:10

#2310

Author: mccamy
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1986 15:10

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From: "...decvax!decwrl!rhea!Squirt!McCamy"
Merrimack, New Hampshire


I recently purchased the 520 ST.  I'm new to this user group 
and have some questions.

1.  Does anyone have experience with the Modula-2 software 
    developed by a British group?

2.  What does one get in the development package offered 
    by Atari for $300?

3.  I did not receive BASIC with my computer, Atari is 
    sending it to me.  Is this a powerful implementation 
    of BASIC or would I be better off with another 
    language/software that better utilizes the capabilities 
    of the 520 ST?  I want a development language that allows
    structured programming and taps the powerful graphics
    capabilities of the 520 ST.

    I've never used 'C' before, does anyone out there recommend 
    it, and why?
    
    Sorry if I've rehashed old questions.

Re: 520 ST SOFTWARE

#2370

Author: boomsma
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1986 11:00

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In article <789@decwrl.DEC.COM> you write:
>
>1.  Does anyone have experience with the Modula-2 software 
>    developed by a British group?

Yes, it's a very complete system, with 6-pass compiler, linker and
screen-editor. However, it has some disadvantages since Modula-2
uses many files for IMPLEMENTATION and DEFINITION modules, so it
takes much disk space and time to compile and link a simple 
application.

>
>2.  What does one get in the development package offered 
>    by Atari for $300?
>

You get:
i.	The C-compiler and pre-processor (cp68.prg, c068.prg, c168.prg)
ii.	The linker and relocator (link68.prg, relmod.prg)
iii.	A utility disk (dump68.prg. size68.prg, command.prg, etc.)
iv.	The Resource Construction Set (rcs.prg)

>
>3.  I did not receive BASIC with my computer, Atari is 
>    sending it to me.  Is this a powerful implementation 
>    of BASIC or would I be better off with another 
>    language/software that better utilizes the capabilities 
>    of the 520 ST?  I want a development language that allows
>    structured programming and taps the powerful graphics
>    capabilities of the 520 ST.

The Basic implementation is very much Microsoft compatible. However,
I find it somewhat slow, because of the use of the GEM environment.
I don't often use it, but that's maybe 'cause I'm not a Basic fan.


>
>    I've never used 'C' before, does anyone out there recommend 
>    it, and why?
>    

I recommend it to you when you have experience with a Pascal-like
language, and if you have no objections against less structural
and more assembly-like statements. Then C would be a perfect
combination of a structured language and a development tool for
you. Other languages you can use for developing purposes are
TDI Modula-2 (described above), and OSS Pascal and 4xForth, which
I haven't seen but seem to be very powerful.

-- 

	Raoul Boomsma
	Vrije Universiteit
	Amsterdam
	...!mcvax!boomsma@ark.UUCP

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