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Article #1357Re: I*S Talk by Batteries Included, review follows.
From: Hugh Redelmeier
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1986 20:21
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1986 20:21
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In article <860729020349.0000079A.AEOA.AA@UMass> Flash@UMass.BITNET (Rick Flashman) writes:
> I just purchased I*S Talk by Batteries Included. Basically, what I can
>say is that the product seems like a good one, but version 1.00 should not
>have been released to the market, too many bugs.
> ... It [I*S Talk -- DHR] is the BEST GEM program,
>since the other ones out there (MI-TERM and FLASH) are worse and have even
>more bugs.
>... He showed us I*S Talk as a complete finished product, and
>went on to talk about how FLASH terminal is full of bugs. When it turns out
>that his product is in much worse shape.
First, this posting is contradictory. Flash (the program) and
I*S Talk can't be both worse than each other.
I use Flash (the program) and am quite happy with it. But: I know
(and like) the developers. Whenever I have had a problem, they have
fixed it. My problems have not been bugs:
1. Flash does not support some of the more obscure features of VT100
(double-sized characters, for example). The initial version did
not support scrolling regions because the authors thought this
feature was unimportant. To a UNIX user it is not, so they have
put it in.
2. Once the scrolling region was added, I had a problem switching to
48 line mode: the scrolling region was not changed. Now it is.
3. It sometimes takes a few clicks of the right button before Flash
notices. The authors tell me that this is a GEM problem. They
told me to hold the button down longer but I haven't tried this.
I think that there were some other small problems with the initial
version, but I never hit them.
The authors regularly sign on to COMPUSERVE, so you could talk to
them there. (This is an observation by me, not a commitment from
them). On COMPUSERE, there is a bug list & fix file: in atari16
sig, data library 2 (telecom), brouse with keyword "flash".
My ST makes a great terminal for my UNIX machine. I love using JOVE
with a 48 line screen. And it works at 9600 Baud (with flow
control).
Hugh Redelmeier (416) 922-1937
{utzoo, ihnp4, decvax}!hcr!hugh
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hcrvx1.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!hcradm!hcrvx1!hugh From: hugh@hcrvx1.UUCP (Hugh Redelmeier) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: I*S Talk by Batteries Included, review follows. Message-ID: <1382@hcrvx1.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Aug-86 16:21:47 EDT Article-I.D.: hcrvx1.1382 Posted: Fri Aug 1 16:21:47 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Aug-86 04:07:55 EDT References: <860729020349.0000079A.AEOA.AA@UMass> Reply-To: hugh@hcrvx1.UUCP (Hugh Redelmeier) Organization: Human Computing Resources, Toronto Lines: 45