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In article <2206@uwmacc.UUCP> oyster@uwmacc.UUCP (Vicarious Oyster) writes:
>In article <218@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> andy@cbmvax.UUCP (Andy Finkel) writes:
>>In article <779@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
>>>Sure, let's let {ucbvax,ihnp4,akgua,hplabs,sdcsvax} pay so this guy can
>>>play with his Atari.  After all, he can't afford it, but they
>>>can.  In fact, why not just post the entire contents of the BBS to
>>>the net -- then *everybody* can pay for the phone time.
>>
>>Please!  He didn't say he couldn't afford it; He said he didn't WISH
>>to pay for the phone time.
>>
>>Somehow, that makes it worse.
>>
>   Here's the good part...
>

< Flaming Portion Deleted >

> - Joel ({allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!oyster)

Well, I've already responded to the portion accusing Commodore of
abusing the net and being a bad net.citizen by email.  (and haven't
heard anything back from Joel in response.  (Basically, I just
paraphrased George Robbins posting, pointing out that we feed news/mail 
around, and have to fight for our phone lines/charges like any other company,
and that usenet was an own-time occupation for the engineers here)

Now, to make it real clear WHY I wanted to respond to that initial message...

<Flame On >

It was the line "I don't WISH to pay".

That was the trigger.  I have nothing against sources for *any* machine 
being posted. I can almost always learn something from any source, even if 
I don't happen to use that machine.  (that's why I don't like binaries, but
that's something else).  
No, what I was commenting on was the *rather have someone else pay for 
something I want* attitude in that initial posting.
The request wasn't *Please email/post because I can't afford them* or
*Please email/post because I can't get them otherwise*, but
*I'd rather have someone else pay*
Whether the stuff is posted, or emailed makes no difference to my
dislike of that attitude.

<Flame Off >

(To the initial poster: sorry about all the fuss.  I wasn't 
*really* attacking you personally :-)  By the way, since you want to
use the stuff for your work, why not see if your company/university/whatever
will pick up your phone bill ? (assuming the stuff isn't posted, that is)

				andy finkel

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			andy finkel
			Commodore(Amiga)
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