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Started by Paul Smee
Mon, 27 Oct 1986 12:22
copy protection flame
Author: Paul Smee
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1986 12:22
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1986 12:22
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Distribution: Organization: AUCC c/o University of Bath Keywords: Both Sundog (Software Heaven Inc, aka FTL) and Rogue (Epyx) are copy protected. Worse, though, both insist on being run with the disks write-enabled. This is a real ***** . FTL, at least, tell you in the instructions that this is the case, and offer an address from which one can (for $10) buy a single backup copy. Epyx do neither. I had a go at copying the Epyx disk. It appears to work, but when you try to run the copy, you get put into what appears to be an infinite 'put disk A into drive A; put disk B into drive A' loop. I actually gave that a try for a bit over 80 swaps, figuring that, since they hadn't said it was copy-protected, they might have simply made it 'unattractive' to copy by requiring that you somehow 'validate' the 80 tracks individually. Finally decided that's not the case. It annoyed me enough to decide that I think I'll try to crack that one, though. Before I get flamed in turn, let me make it clear that I have bought, from authorised dealers, still shrink-wrapped copies of both at the proper price for real money; and that I want backups for my own use -- since I'm not convinced that I can run a write-enabled disk indefinitely without managing to have an accident with it.
Re: copy protection flame
Author: braner
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1986 06:03
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1986 06:03
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[] At the risk of being repetitive: Before I shell out money for ANY piece of software, I find out whether it is "copy protected". If it is, I DO NOT BUY IT!!!!!!! FLAME ON: I will not buy a car with that thin spare wheel and a 55 mph mechanical limit, nor an insurance policy where other drivers are excluded. I will not buy a book printed in ink that is visible only under a special lamp. I will not rent a house with limits imposed in the lease on guests staying overnight. And I will not pay for software that will not run off a hard disk, a ram disk, and a backup. FLAME OFF. - Moshe Braner
Re: copy protection flame
Author: Bruce Holloway
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1986 19:01
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1986 19:01
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In article <246@bath63.UUCP> pes@ux63.bath.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes: >I had a go at copying the Epyx disk. It appears to work, but when you >try to run the copy, you get put into what appears to be an infinite >'put disk A into drive A; put disk B into drive A' loop. I actually >gave that a try for a bit over 80 swaps, figuring that, since they hadn't >said it was copy-protected, they might have simply made it 'unattractive' >to copy by requiring that you somehow 'validate' the 80 tracks individually. >Finally decided that's not the case. It annoyed me enough to decide that >I think I'll try to crack that one, though. I copied Rogue over to my hard disk, and it runs fine from there, although it requires the original disk in 'A'... it just accesses it for a couple of seconds. Also, you can only save files to the original disk! But at least the loading time is slashed, especially for those l-o-n-g picture files. -- ....!ucbvax!hplabs!amdahl!drivax!holloway (I'm not THAT Bruce Holloway, I'm the other one.)
Re: copy pretection
Author: Vicarious Oyster
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1986 14:47
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1986 14:47
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In article <224@drivax.UUCP> holloway@drivax.UUCP (Bruce Holloway) writes:
>In article <246@bath63.UUCP> pes@ux63.bath.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
>>I had a go at copying the Epyx disk. It appears to work, but...
>>It annoyed me enough to decide that I think I'll try to crack that one,
>>though.
>
>I copied Rogue over to my hard disk, and it runs fine from there, although
>it requires the original disk in 'A'... it just accesses it for a couple
>of seconds. Also, you can only save files to the original disk! But at
>least the loading time is slashed, especially for those l-o-n-g picture
>files.
Well, I've tried running it from a RAMdisk copy, and it wouldn't run,
even *with* the original diskette in drive A. Also, although I haven't
actually saved a game on an alternate diskette, I've subsequently copied
saved game files to another diskette, and have loaded them from that
diskette (in drive B). Works great!
Lastly, after reading (Ian Chadwick's?) column in the most recent
Analog, I took a look at the executatble file. It was entertaining
finding phrases like "Software Pirate", "Copy Protection Mafia", and
"Scum of the Earth." (Ian, by the way, changed the "die roll" figures
in the executable, thereby making his character much better, allowing
him to get the Amulet. Kinda defeats the purpose of the game, doesn't it?)
--
- Joel Plutchak
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Re: copy pretection
Author: D'arc Angel
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1986 01:09
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1986 01:09
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> Lastly, after reading (Ian Chadwick's?) column in the most recent
> Analog, I took a look at the executatble file. It was entertaining
> finding phrases like "Software Pirate", "Copy Protection Mafia", and
> "Scum of the Earth." (Ian, by the way, changed the "die roll" figures
> in the executable, thereby making his character much better, allowing
> him to get the Amulet. Kinda defeats the purpose of the game, doesn't it?)
> --
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if you're going to look for ways to cheat, you might try looking in
the executable for the rogue's name (i.e. what you type in for the
name) that allows you to create anything, scrolls, weapons etc. It's
literally right there in front of you in the code. nuff said..
but i agree with you it takes all of the fun out of the game
on another subject; is anyone out there playing Phantasie I ? (if you
like rogue, you will fall in love with this game) i have gotten all
of the rings and runes and found the black knight's dungeon but
i can't get him, what am i doing wrong ?????
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