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AT T defended

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From: Phil R. Karn
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1986 08:10
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>In article <351@hropus.UUCP> jrw@hropus.UUCP (Jim Webb) writes:
>>	Has anyone else out there noticed that on the "7300" the
>>	grep, egrep, and fgrep commands are IDENTICAL.  The other
>>	day I did an egrep "nproc|NPROC" or some such thing and
>>	it failed!  A quick cmp of grep and egrep yielded no 
>>	differences, in fact, grep and fgrep are linked together.
>> ...
>>	But enough already, right?  There is one nice undocumented
>>	feature about the 7300 I did discover though, link the
>>	ls command to lf and you will get astericks after executables
>>	(sort of like an automatic ls -CF) and linking it to ll gives
>>	an automatic ls -l.

>In other words, the 7300 does not have UNIX, but rather an
>approximation thereof.  What a crock!  ATTIS is liable to
>lose big in the marketplace if they can't get their UNIX
>act together any better than they have so far.

	I'd like to comment, not as an answer to this statement in 
particular, but to the tone of many similar ones:
Aw, come on. I know that it's not nice to admit that AT&T EVER did
anything right but all of this carping about their botching and
commercialism of UNIX in getting to be a cliche. Is 4.2 just an
approximation ? As a lonely independent hobbyist
working away in his basement on a machine bought with his own money
with no association to a think tank of Ph.D.'s of compsci, to or 
AT&T, or to any boby else; I have to say that AT&T HAS done a service
for me. When I put together my first machine 6 years ago, 8K of ram,
CP/M, s-100 bus, and the Tarbell cassette interface to tiny-C was the
state of the art. The idea of having a UNIX machine was as remote as
having a Marvin to do the dusting and a Ford Prefect as a guru.
	Now, for $4.5K I have a full blown UNIX V, a 20 Mb 
hard disc, and l meg of ram. (that's a 1000 K in chips.) So if it does
have a few less features than the Cray-2 system, please let me enjoy 
my ignorance. And when you consider the goodies like Warren
Montgomery's emacs and the korn shell that AT&T as given away thru
THE STORE! I say that I think that I got my money's worth and FLAME
ON ! 

Phil Karn,Sr.
bellcore!opera!pkarn
My views on this do not imply any congruency with those of Phil
Karn,Jr. [bellcore!karn] who will probably give the first if not the 
longest and hottest flame.
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Subject: AT T defended
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Date: Wed, 9-Apr-86 03:10:46 EST
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Posted: Wed Apr  9 03:10:46 1986
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