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In article <397@gumby.WISC.EDU> bezanson@gumby.WISC.EDU (Brian Bezanson) writes:
>
>>>   Resources - The Mac has a what-you-see-is-what-you-get editor called
>>The Amiga has a Font Editor and an Icon editor shipped with it (the Font
>>Editor is officially new for release 1.2).  I've got a public domain
>>Menu editor which lets me define menus, graphically, then produce C code to
>>create them.  And a full featured gadget editor is just around the corner
>>(can you edit MAC gadgets as easily as all the other stuff?).
>You missed the point here, you can graphically edit ALL the Macs resources
>(windows, dialogs, menus, icons, strings, etc...) without having to change
>any of the original programs code or need for any recompiling. 

Well whoopeedo to you, too, Mr. Computer Bigot. Just what we need,
another flaming Mactribesman cluttering up the net with his diatribes
about how his computer is better than every other computer in the
world (to hear some of the Mactribesmen speak, their Mac is better
than a Sun!). Frankly, who gives a #$%@#$% about whether you have to
recompile your code after changing the gadgets? Doesn't exactly sound
earth-shattering to me...

>WRONG!!! Though the Amiga may be faster from a hardware DESIGN point, in 
>practical use, I could always go to sleep waiting for it to read in a disk, and
>I could watch ROOTS in the time it took to open up it's 'folders'.  The Amiga
>OS, at least from Intuition/Finder Section was defintely slower than on the
>Mac 512E or Plus.

Oh so true. Intuition has some definite problems with speed in that
area, mainly because it is sitting on top of a real operating system.
The Mac stores disk directory entries with both their corresponding
icons, and the filenames/locations/etc. Tripos/Amigados doesn't, since
if you are operating in the CLI environment, there are no associated
icons.  The Amiga has to go looking for ".info" files due to the
implementation chosen (I personally think they should have stored all
the icons in a single ".info" file in each directory, instead of
having to go chasing around looking for them).

>>> ... Although
>>> the hardware of the Amiga should be faster than a Macintosh, the superior
>>> software of the Mac consistantly makes it easier to use, faster, and more
>>> powerful at the kinds of tasks that I like to do.

You must not be very demanding! I do alot of programming. One thing I
like to do on Unix is to call up a shell window in GNU Emacs, compile
my program, run it, and as the errors pop up, edit my program and do
it all over again. I also suspend the editor alot to pull up dc or go
brouse thru /usr/src/local looking for likely solutions, etc. I can
see where, if you just use your Mac as a terminal or a word processor,
you could prefer the Mac to an Amiga (that tiny monitor shure has nice
looking characters!)... but while I can use my preferred work style on
both Unix and the Amiga, I wouldn't be able to use it on the Mac due
to the lack of multitasking. Programming the Mac sounds an aweful lot
like programming my C-64 -- I HATE single-tasking computers, they're
so awefully limited.

>The Mac is far easier to use, because Apple created a standard interface that
>99% of all Mac programs follow.  You can use nearly any mac program, to some
>basic extent, without ever having read the documentation.  I hate the 2 button
>mouse on the Amiga.  One minute you use the right button to open a window, the
>next you have to use another button.  It has less functionality than the Mac
>Mouse.

Obviously, you've never used an Amiga. The right button is used ONLY
pull down menus, in all the Amiga software that I have used, and the
left button is used ONLY to move windows around, tweak gadgets, etc.

>The Amiga is a great piece of hardware, but it was brought out by an ailing
>firm that is still on the edges of financial disaster, and the Amiga is not
>helping Commodore out a lot.  The Atari ST for it's price and software has the
>Amiga beat out, and the Mac edges out the Atari in the higher end market.
>The Amiga has probably seen it's last days as a viable computer, due to price
>drops in Atari and Apple lines, and the introduction of Apples //GS.
>
>Time is a telling factor.  Let's have a net re-union next year and see if
>the Amiga is still sold by Commodore (or anyone else).  Commodores low-end
>market is falling to the big boys.
>
>Brian Bezanson					       bezanson@gumby.wisc.edu

Talk about your LIES!!!! The Amiga is right now reaching the point of
takeoff. Within the last month, several pieces of hardware have been
release for a suitable price that make the  Amiga competitive with any
computer on the market today. For example, if I had an Amiga (just
lusting after one, thank you), I could add 4 megabytes of RAM to it
for under $1200... try that with your Mac! See ya, Mr. Computer Bigot!

By the way, I think the Mac Plus is a nice machine... the Computing
Center here has several Macs used by the secretaries (the techies
generally have PC-Drones or other such machines, since they enjoy
playing with soldering irons and you need a hacksaw to open a Mac).
-- 

      Eric Green {akgua,ut-sally}!usl!elg
        (Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191, Lafayette, LA 70509)

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