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3 total messages Started by Jeff Harrow NCSE TWO/E92 DTN=247... Tue, 09 Apr 1985 21:36

#1051

Author: Jeff Harrow NCSE TWO/E92 DTN=247...
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1985 21:36

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Writing a program for the Mac environment is highly rewarding in terms of 
satisfaction and ease of use of the resultant program but, in most COMPILED 
languages that I've seen, it requires an ENORMOUS amount of work to initially 
create and then maintain the whole Mac environment.

However, several of the INTERPRETERS on the market, notably Microsoft Basic 
V2.0 and MacPascal, seem to offer the ability to use windows, controls, menus, 
etc. in a rather straightforward manner.

Has anyone seen a COMPILER which performs the same 'ease of programming' 
services, hence allowing the programmer to concentrate on his PROGRAM rather 
than on the innards of the Mac, while still gaining the execution speed and 
independence of a native mode program?

		Jeff Harrow

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Re: Ease of writing programs...

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Author: edmoy
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1985 18:34

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At one of the Macintosh Developer's Seminar that Apple gives, I heard that
they are working on a "standard" applications package that does all of
the tedious window, menu, etc. stuff for you and lets you work on the
actual application-specific part.  I don't remember when they were going
to have it finished, but I think sometime this year.

Edward Moy
Computing Services
University of California
Berkeley, CA  94720

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Re: Ease of writing programs...

#1049

Author: John W Peterson
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1985 04:29

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> Has anyone seen a COMPILER which performs the same 'ease of programming'
>  services... while still gaining the execution speed and independence of
>  a native mode program?

Translation: you want to have your cake, and eat it too.

About the best way I know of to go about this is to first get a "basic"
application running, such as a simple multi-window text editor.  Once
you get this sort of basic shell working (and as *clean* and bug free as
you can) developing stuff on top of it becomes relativly painless.  Relativly.

Apple is working on a fancy version of this (the "expandable application")
that is supposed to be very complete.   It's written with their object-Pascal.

I think the optimum though, would be something as fancy as Apple's two-Mac
debugger that knew about high-level languages.  (What I would give to have
Apollo's window debugger available in that environment...)

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