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Started by Larry Tepper
Tue, 04 Dec 1984 20:31
Seen on a car bumper...
Author: Larry Tepper
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 1984 20:31
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 1984 20:31
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... Honk if you hate the IBM PC
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One of the survivors...
{ihnp4 hao philabs sdcrdcf ucbvax!nbires}!stcvax!lat Larry Tepper
Storage Technology, MD-3T, Louisville, CO 80028 303-673-5435
No memory management hardare?
Author: Nick Flor
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 1984 20:21
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 1984 20:21
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Does the macintosh have any memory management hardware? ie.hardware for multitasking et al. multiprocessing stuff. If not, is there any way, under program control, to interrupt the processor? -Nick Flor
Re: No memory management hardare?
Author: Jonathan Shapiro
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 1984 04:05
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 1984 04:05
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[Aren't you hungry...?] It is my understanding that no memory management hardware exists in the Mac as distributed, but it occurs to me that there may be a 68010 pin for pin replacement for the processor which might be made to do the trick.... Just a thought, I haven't tried it. Bout time somebody started net.micro.mac. Jon Shapiro
Re: No memory management hardare?
Author: Rob Warnock
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 1984 09:43
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 1984 09:43
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| It is my understanding that no memory management hardware exists in the
| Mac as distributed, but it occurs to me that there may be a 68010 pin for
| pin replacement for the processor which might be made to do the trick....
| Jon Shapiro
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Sorry, a 68010 has no memory management in it, either. (For that matter,
neither does the 68020.) The '010 indeed IS a pin-for-pin replacement
for a 68000, but the ONLY difference as far as memory management goes
is that the '010 saves enough stuff on the stack when you get a "bus
error" trap (say, from a page fault) that you can re-start (actually,
continue) the affected instruction. The 68000 saves SOME stuff, but it's
not enough to always unambiguously continue.
All of the 680XX processors use an external MMU in order to do virtual
memory. (I actually prefer this, as sometimes you want to do it differently
than the way the chip maker provided.)
Rob Warnock
Systems Architecture Consultant
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Re: No memory management hardare?
Author: Henry Spencer
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 1984 21:25
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 1984 21:25
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> All of the 680XX processors use an external MMU in order to do virtual
> memory. (I actually prefer this, as sometimes you want to do it differently
> than the way the chip maker provided.)
Damn near always, if one substitutes "Motorola" for "the chip maker".
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Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
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