Fat Mac & MacProject/system dependency questions

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3 total messages Started by Chuq Von Rospach Thu, 14 Feb 1985 08:54

#620

Author: Chuq Von Rospach
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 1985 08:54

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Having just upgraded to a Fat Mac (ah, the wonderfulness of lots of memory)
and picked up a printer and MacProject, I've been doing a number of
housekeeping chores, such as installing fonts, moving around DA's,
upgrading the system disks, and the like. 

I've run into a few things that I'm not sure what to do with, so people out
there who know more than I do, please clue me in:

    . Which is the preferred printer interface-- the imagewriter to be
    found on the MacProject disk (imagewriter 15) or the imagewriter on the
    512K upgrade disk? Why? How?

    . The first thing I did to MacProject was move a copy to a play disk,
    sans the system folder (I keep a system disk on the internal with all
    my DA's, fonts, etc... and the application on the external disks with
    the data-- it seems to work well for me, and it means I only have one
    place to update DA's). When I started it up, it initialized the screen
    windows wrong, and generally looked funny. This leads me to believe
    that the system file on that disk has some things in it that MacProject
    depends on that I'm missing elsewhere. Should I simply use that system
    folder as my default, install the fonts and DA's, and forget it, or
    should I track down and move the missing or changed resources? Anyone
    know what they are?

On a more general note, does anyone have a good idea of what revisions of
which software are the most up-to-date and really available? It seems that
the finder is still at 1.1g and MacTerminal at 1.1, but I'm not nearly as
sure about MacPaint, MacWrite, or the printer stuff. Also, how to you keep
track of System files and make sure you have what you need for the
applications you are running, and whether or not you have the most up to
date versions of those resources?

Thanx, as the say, in advance...
	chuq

-- 
From left field, near the warning track:          Chuq Von Rospach
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Re: Fat Mac & MacProject/system dependency questions

#628

Author: Steve Langdon
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 1985 20:26

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As answers to chuq's questions may be of general interest I will offer
my opinions on the subject.

>     . Which is the preferred printer interface-- the imagewriter to be
>     found on the MacProject disk (imagewriter 15) or the imagewriter on the
>     512K upgrade disk? Why? How?

Probably neither.  The only reason I say probably is that I am not sure
what the imagewriter on the 512K upgrade disk is.  The best driver I know
of is the one from the most recent version of the software supplement.  It
was posted in binhex form in late January.  Also posted was the install
program (in binhex again)  and instructions on installation.

The earlier Imagewriter 15 distributed on MacProject has some bugs that
were described in an info-mac posting.  One word of warning is that
there were reports on info-mac of trouble with desk accessories when
using the new imagewriter.  The cure appeared to be installing the
driver after the accessories.  I have not experienced these problems
myself so I cannot comment on the details.

Chuq also related strange behavior when running MacProject off an old
system disk and requested information on the current version of various
pieces of Apple software.

My technique for dealing with system updates is as follows.  I take the
latest system file released by Apple (currently from MacProject) and modify
it to generate systems having my prefered desk accesories and updates such
as the imagewriter from the software supplement.
Once I have a system I like, I generate varients that have different mixes
of fonts.  None of my application disks have a system file, but they do
have the imagewriter driver file because applications cannot print without an
imagewriter file on the same (default?) disk.  All of my applications
run without apparent problems using this method but you need to be careful
about font dependencies (e.g. Multiplan will look different if it can't
find the Seattle fonts).

Now for versions:

Finder 1.1g released - 2.x has been sighted, is faster, but is claimed to
have bugs.

System ? - my scheme is described above.

MacPaint 1.4

MacWrite 3.98 has been reported - I have given up on MacWrite and switched
to Word.
-- 
Stephen J. Langdon                  ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun,nsc}!amdahl!sjl

[ The article above is not an official statement from any organization
  in the known universe. ]

Re: Fat Mac & MacProject/system dependency questions

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Author: David HM Spector
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 1985 01:01

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Hello...


The current versions (released versions, that is.) of things is

	Finder  - 1.1g
	MacWrite - 2.20
	MacPaint - 1.4
	Macterminal - 1.1

There may well be Macproject resources in the system folder. But that seems a 
rather silly thing for Apple to have done.  Imagewriter 15 is prob. the best
thing to use with 'project, as it knows how to deal with quickdraw objects a 
bit better than the old one.

					Dave Spector
					NYU/acf Systems Group

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