Lisp on Macs

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2 total messages Started by Mark Davies Tue, 28 Oct 1986 08:06

#7793

Author: Mark Davies
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1986 08:06

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As part of a distributed systems project that we are currently developing,
we require a Lisp for the Macintosh.  Are there any good systems readily
available? 

Requirements
   o  Reasonably `powerful' lisp implementation

   o  Access to the Macintosh toolbox

   o  Access to routines written in other languages
      e.g.  network routines written in C

   o  Ability to `dump' snapshots of an environment.
      i.e. generate new load bands

We have a copy of MacScheme 1.01.  Are the more recent versions any better?

I have heard mention of ExperLISP, has anyone had experience with this
product?  Is it any good?

I also noticed in a recent Byte  ExperCommonLISP -- Is this a separate
product or a development of the above?  Is it a full CommonLisp
implementation?

What else is available?

Repies by Email please.  I will summarise to the net if there is 
interest.

Thanks
Mark
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Re: Lisp on Macs

#7810

Author: Mark Verber
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1986 01:56

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There are four 'real' Lisp compilers for the Macintosh that will
let you do the critical things you are interested in:

#1. MacScheme with Toolsmith.  Toolsmith gives full access to
    the toolbox in a very nice way.   Toolsmith is currently in
    beta test but is very nice.  The only complaint I have is
    that it is slow (but then again I am use to Sun-3s).

#2. ExperLisp.  I don't recommend this compiler.  The compiler is
    buggy.  They advertise that it is CommonLisp compatible but
    it doesn't support closures, use lexical scoping or have
    multiple name spaces.  I guess you can call it CommonLisp
    since the function names are the same.  I have talked to a
    number of Lisp implimentors about the product, and all have
    felt that the ExperLisp compiler just wasn't that hot.

#3. OakLisp.  This is an experimental Object Scheme which runs
    on Symbolics, Macintoshes and Suns.  I believe only the
    Symbolics version is running (although I am guessing).
    It might be released, then again, it might not.  You can
    see a description of it in the Proceedings from OOPSLA86. 
    OakLisp is a high preformance dialect of Scheme with
    objects as first class entities.  It is modelled after
    T (from Yale) and should be very high preformance, and give
    access to the toolbox.

#4. PSL (Portable Standard Lisp).  This also is not done yet.
    Rummor has it that Kessler is porting the entire SysLisp
    compiler to the Macintosh. SysLisp is a dialect of PSL
    which is designed to product high-preformance software,
    specificely other compilers and tools.  PSL is very much
    like MacLisp for the DECsystem-20 and generates very fast
    code.

Cheers,
Mark A. Verber			verber@ohio-state.arpa  (internet)
The Ohio State University	verber@ohio-state.csnet (csnet)
+1 (614) 422-0915		cbosgd!osu-eddie!verber (uucpnet)

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