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Started by mrb
Sat, 13 Sep 1986 00:47
Help (?) for a beginner
Author: mrb
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1986 00:47
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1986 00:47
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I would like to get familiar with the 32-bit microprocessors (hardware &
software, etc.). Jameco Electronics is selling the NSC Series 32000 designer
kits for $59.95 (32016) and $79.95 (32032).
They sound like what I want (does not seem to be anything comparable for 68020,
etc.) but I would like some guidance for purchasing.....
The ad says: "Each kit includes TDS Manual, TDSCOM Program Listing, Programming
Reference Guide, Series 32000 Data Book, Instruction Set Manual, Application
Notes and Product Brochures. (32016 Kit): 32016 CPU, 32081 FPU, 32082 MMU,
32201 TCU, 32202 ICU and 2 TDS PROMS......(32032 Kit): Same as above but a
32032 CPU & 4 TDS PROMs."
Your comments/assistance/warnings/caveats/suggestions are eagerly appreciated
and awaited.
Thanks in advance
MRB @ PSUECL (Penn State Engineering Computer Lab) via all the usual gateways.
Re: Help (?) for a beginner
Author: haddock
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1986 19:13
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1986 19:13
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>I would like to get familiar with the 32-bit microprocessors
>(hardware & software, etc.). Jameco Electronics is selling the NSC
>Series 32000 designer kits for $59.95 (32016) and $79.95 (32032).
You might wanna check out the ICM-3216 board available from National
Semi. This contains the the entire chip set, comes with 1(?) or
4-meg of memory, a SYS V Rel2 Rev2 tape (cartridge) , 4-serial
ports, and a Centronics parallel port. The University/user-group
program at N/S allows yoiu to get this two-board set for $1495.
From here you'll need to add a power supply, disk drive, controller,
terminal, and possibly a case to put it all into sans terminal.
Maybe this is too muich $$$ for you but at least it's a working
system with plenty of software available. This is something you
won't easily put together with a bare chip set. Then again, if
you're into making controllers as opposed to general purpose systems
the chip set kits would be the way to go.
-Rusty-
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Re: Help (?) for a beginner
Author: Bdale Garbee
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1986 13:24
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1986 13:24
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In article <367@PSUECL> mrb@psuecl.BITNET writes:
>I would like to get familiar with the 32-bit microprocessors (hardware &
>software, etc.). Jameco Electronics is selling the NSC Series 32000 designer
>kits for $59.95 (32016) and $79.95 (32032).
The kits are $57 and $75 respectively from distributors, if you know
of one to talk to. I picked up one 32016 and a pair of 32032 kits at
that price.
>Your comments/assistance/warnings/caveats/suggestions are eagerly appreciated
>and awaited.
caveats:
All the parts in the kits are 6Mhz parts, at least 10Mhz
32016 parts are available... I was disappointed, but not
surprised... should be plenty fast enough for you to have
fun playing with. I figure that with lots of DMA for I/O,
it should go fast enough for my target prototype as well...
The Tiny Development System stuff seems to want com ports
based on 8251A USARTS. I guess this is ok, but would have
been MUCH nicer if they added hooks for custom I/O routines.
For what I'm doing, Z8530's are so much nicer.
Think about what, if any, software you will have to run on
the box when you're done. I have a Symmetric 375, and so
have a full BSD C compiler/assembler/linker that should be
easy to use generating ROM-able code for my target(s). Not
sure what else is available, as I've never looked. As much
as I like the 32XXX family, the 68XXX family at least has
CP/M 68K and OS9 available... think about it.
The bottom line? If you want to get into 32XXX hardware, the kits are neat.
They come with loads of docs, plus a listing of a turbo-pascal program for a
PC that will talk to TDS for uploading/downloading code from a PC. 6Mhz parts
are a drag though. If you are not a 32XXX fan but are just looking to get in
to this level of hardware, look at 68XXX stuff. A simple single board with
68000 8-10Mhz, a couple serial ports, disk, and a bunch of memory makes a
VERY nice OS9 box... Software is THE issue.
--
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Re: Help (?) for a beginner
Author: jec
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1986 17:55
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1986 17:55
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Don't forget the tape drive to read in the cartridge tape! Or am
I missing something?
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