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Article #7891Re: Mail Order Experience
From: Joel Upchurch
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1986 21:49
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1986 21:49
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>I have seen similar discussions for other similar suppliers (eg Tennis
> Equipment and Camera stuff). How about some feedback?
> Who's good ... who's not kind of stuff.
Sounds like a good topic. I bought a PC Clone and a lot of
other stuff recently. I'll start out with my good
experiences.
CompuAdd Of Austin TX
I ordered their Career Starter Kit. This includes a
computer, keyboard, monitor, display adapter, and printer.
The bundled software includes MS-Dos 3.2 GWBASIC, and the
ZEN software series. All the necessary cables, printer
paper, and 10 blank diskettes are included.
The computer is a 8MHZ PC clone with an AT-style keyboard.
The nameplate says it's a Standard Turbo-88, but all the
documents refer to it as the PC II. Since the documents
match the computer and it looks just like a PCII I saw
elsewhere, I conclude that it is a private label version of
the PC II. You can put up to 1 MB on the motherboard, and
it comes with a driver to use the additional 384kb as a ram
disk. It also has a clock, one floppy disk drive and a game
port.
The monitor is a 12 inch amber one made by Goldstar. I paid
20 bucks to have them upgrade the display adapter to a
Hercules clone card. The printer it is a Citizen 120D. I
think that the bundled monitor and printer change sometimes,
so you should ask about the models included if you order.
In addition to the starter kit I ordered 768K of additional
RAM for the system, a 30MB half height hard disk, a 1200
baud short card modem and a 8MHZ 8087 coprocessor chip.
The salespeople I dealt with over the phone were polite and
knowledgeable about their equipment. I had one
self-inflicted minor hassle caused by the me exceeding my
limit on my Master Card, which was straighted out
expeditiously. I received my computer about a week and a
half after my order.
When I checked out the computer, I found that the memory,
hard disk, modem, and 8087 had already been installed, which
from what I have read isn't necessarily SOP for mail-order
firms. I hooked up the monitor and keyboard and plugged in
the power cable and stuck the MS-DOS diskette in the disk
drive and turned the sucker on. It worked, shucks I had
more trouble than this with my VCR.
I had one problem with the computer. It insisted that any
floppy disk I tried to write to was write protected. I
called CompuAdd technical support line and the guy there
suggested I check the alignment of the write protect sensor
and LED. I opened up the case and fiddled with the sensor
awhile, after that the drive worked fine and has ever since.
The Goldstar monitor has a little too much persistence for
my taste, it tends to make the characters a little blurry
during rapid scrolling. Other than that I like it fine, the
amber display is very attractive. It looks real nice when
I'm running Microsoft Windows and PC Paintbrush.
The monochrome graphics display adapter appears to be a good
clone of the Hercules card, at least I've told several
software packages that it is a Hercules card and they all
worked fine.
The Citizen printer works fine too. It has a correspondence
mode that won't be mistaken for daisywheel output, but the
output is quite legible in correspondence mode. It can
emulate a IBM Graphics Printer and Epson FX-80 also.
The modem is made by Everex, is Hayes-compatible and comes
with a communications program called Bitcom which isn't bad
at all considering it comes bundled with the modem.
The only problem I've had so far that I would term a
hardware compatibility problem is that Microsoft Windows
locks up when I try to use the RAM disk. The 384KB on the
motherboard, which isn't included in the normal 640KB DOS
partition, is configured as a 2nd bank of memory starting at
128KB. The included driver then uses it as a RAM disk. The
RAM disk works fine with all of my other software, but with
Windows it locks up.
The ZEN Word that was bundled with the system is fine, PC
Magazine gave it a good review in the Jan. 28 86 issue,
which I agree with. They also said that ZEN Spell is junk,
which I also agree with. ZEN Calc appears to be adequate
for simple spreadsheet chores. ZEN Link appears to be okay,
but I like Bitcom better.
A few weeks later I ordered an EMS card and 2MB of memory
chips from them. Again no hassles and the stuff came in
about a week. The memory chips were still in the static
carriers, so I had to plug them in myself, a tedious, but
not too difficult job. It stuck me as a little odd to have
a system with 48 times as much memory as my Apple II.
The only problem I've had was that the range of possible
output ports used by the EMS board overlaps those used by
the on board clock. The EMS board driver apparently manages
to zero out the year when it scans the ports to determine
how many EMS boards are installed. I wrote a quicky Turbo
Pascal program to set the year back to 86, that is executed
by my AUTOEXEC.BAT file. I haven't gotten around to trying
the technical support line to see if they have a patch to
the driver yet.
Windows works just fine with the RAM disk driver for the EMS
card.
All in all I am very pleased with my experiences with
CompuAdd. While I wouldn't recommend a novice computer user
use mail-order, there are some excellent bargains available
for the wary and experienced user.
Logic Array of Costa Mesa Ca
I bought a 8MHZ NEC V20 chip to replace my 8088-2. Every-
thing was fine - no muss, no fuss.
Jameco of Belmont CA
I got a replacement power supply for my Apple II from them.
Same deal, the delivery was in a reasonable time, it was
what I ordered, and it worked. Okay in my book.
Northeastern Software of Shelton CT
Here I had a lot of hassles. The 800 number was hard to get
through on. The order taker was curt and unknowledgeable
about their inventory. Practically all the prices were
different, and higher than the ones listed in their ad. I
was told that the offer of free air express shipping for
orders of $150 or more had been discontinued, but it was
still mentioned in their ad next month. I get a letter from
them next week saying they had been unable to me reach on
the phone to confirm my order. They hadn't mentioned that
they needed to when I made the order or I would have given
my work number instead of my home one. When I finally get a
package from them two items have been back ordered, but when
my Master Card bill arrives, I have been billed for all of
them, which is tacky, if not illegal. 5 weeks later I tried
to call them about the status of the item I hadn't received
and I got put on hold and apparently forgotten twice. I
gave up and sent them a letter canceling my order for the
last item (Sidekick non-protected) and excluded the cost of
the last item from my credit card payment, with an note
explaining why to the credit card company. I don't intend
to do business with them again.
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Insert standard disclaimer about all the proper names
mentioned above are probably trademarks and that everything
I just said is my own opinion and not that of my company.
--
Joel Upchurch @ CONCURRENT Computer Corporation (A Perkin-Elmer Company)
Southern Development Center
2486 Sand Lake Road/ Orlando, Florida 32809/ (305)850-1031
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