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In article <620@watmum.UUCP> smvorkoetter@watmum.UUCP (Stefan M. Vorkoetter) writes:
>
>I have downloaded, uudecoded, and un-arced the PC-VT program posted to
>the net recently, and have run the VT100 emulator test program posted to
>net.sources on it.  I am sorry to report that it fails most of these tests
>miserably.
[etc.]
>I did not try kermit or xmodem, since I did not have time.  Maybe this is
[etc.]

I have also given PC-VT a try, and I've been pretty happy with it.
My needs don't include 100% vt100 compatibility - the PC-VT documentation
admits to the double height character omission [DECDHL - not ANSI anyway?],
and some others.  I have used the Xmodem support, and it's *great*.  Of the
six to ten terminal emulator / communications programs I have seen, I'd say
PC-VT ranks at the top of the list.

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As a contributor to the VT100 emulator test program, I can state that I have
yet to see a software-based emulator that passes it, including Xtalk 3.6,
Procomm 2.4, and PC-VT. If anyone discovers one that does, please announce!
Since the tester is PD, hopefully it will be picked up and used by the
developers of comms packages.
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> I have downloaded, uudecoded, and un-arced the PC-VT program posted to
> the net recently, and have run the VT100 emulator test program posted to
> net.sources on it.  I am sorry to report that it fails most of these tests
> miserably.  The cursor movement tests, which fill the screen with a nice
> symmetrical pattern, using all the cursor movement commands resulted in an
> unreadable mess.  The VT102 feature tests likewise.  Ditto for VT52.  Double
> width characters came out completely illegible.  I tried to post this message
> using it, but unfortunately, vi did not work right with it.
> 
> I did not try kermit or xmodem, since I did not have time.  Maybe this is
> an old (very old) version of the program.  I hope I didn't sound too 
> negative, but I am only reporting the results.  
> 
> NB.  I tried the VT100 test program on several VT100 compatibles, including
> a VT240, and everything works fine.

I am not familiar with the test you refer to, but I'm using the program with
vi every day, and it works right for me. Have you read the documenation, and 
set the program up to work with a UNIX host? (it defaults to a VMS host).

All I can say, it works for me!
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In article <620@watmum.UUCP> smvorkoetter@watmum.UUCP (Stefan M. Vorkoetter) writes:
>
>
>I have downloaded, uudecoded, and un-arced the PC-VT program posted to
>the net recently, and have run the VT100 emulator test program posted to
>net.sources on it.  I am sorry to report that it fails most of these tests
>miserably.  The cursor movement tests, which fill the screen with a nice
>symmetrical 
I have run the same routine and have to agree with Stefan's remarks. The 
version of PC-VT posted here was woefully lacking in many of the features
required for a VT100 emulation.

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In article <650@aesat.UUCP>, rwh@aesat.UUCP (Russ Herman) writes:
> As a contributor to the VT100 emulator test program, I can state that I have
> yet to see a software-based emulator that passes it [....]

I, too, have been frustrated with the quality of vt100 emulation.
People seem to get cursor moves, basic attributes, and things right,
but when it comes to more obscure sequences....  However, VTERM III
from Coefficient Systems comes pretty close.

It passes almost everything, including 132-column, light and dark
backgrounds, scroll regions (important to me), all the attribute
combinations, all the keyboard combinations, and handles double-sized
and double-height characters reasonably.  They even have smooth scroll
slower than jump scroll.

The things that failed are:
	auto repeat off
	request terminal parameters args 0 and 1 (although identify
		and DSR 5 and 6 work fine).
	reset didn't do anything

If I just start the program and do the VT52 test, it runs fine.
If I run the entire program through, the VT52 test fails.  I seem to
remember this as a known bug in vttest, though.

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In article <650@aesat.UUCP> rwh@aesat.UUCP (Russ Herman) writes:
>As a contributor to the VT100 emulator test program, I can state that I have
>yet to see a software-based emulator that passes it, including Xtalk 3.6,
>Procomm 2.4, and PC-VT. If anyone discovers one that does, please announce!
>Since the tester is PD, hopefully it will be picked up and used by the
>developers of comms packages.

I have seen one program pass both the DEC STORE test and the VTCOMPAT.TXT
program (as it is known on the BBS's in this little part of the country.)
The program is called Professional YAM, and both files pass with flying
colors - windows, scrolling, PC colors, ANSI graphics, etc. CrossTalk,
Pibterm, Copylink II, ProComm, etc all have problems at one place or
another in both of the tests.

Information requests on Pro-YAM can be serviced by sending mail to
....!tektronix!reed!omen!caf on UUCP. And, of course, I have no affiliation 
with the makers of Pro-YAM other than I like to see excellent software
become popular and mediocre software pass to the lower parts of the earth.
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