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Article #180"Mewn Awen fwyn lawen byw byth y bo hi"
From: Matthew Rosenblatt
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1986 18:39
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1986 18:39
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> I have an English translation of a Welsh song -- it's all translated,
> that is, except the refrain. There's a note saying it has "many
> possible translations". Could someone give me an idea of what the
> words might mean? Even a word-by-word list of possibilities would be
> greatly appreciated. Here's the first verse (the line in question is
> the last one). Thanks, very much.
>
> Now strike the harp gladly, let music resound,
> To cheer all the true hearts here gather'd around,
> No word of contention shall sully our joy.
> No thought of dull care our contentment destroy.
> Here patriots may loudly rejoice to be free,
> And Cambrians to Cambria vow faithful to be,
> Mewn Awen fwyn lawen byw byth y bo hi.
It's always dangerous when an idiot gets hold of a dictionary and tries to
translate from a language he knows little about, BUT that's never stopped me
before, so:
mewn = in, within;
Awen = Muse (the root -awen- appears in several words meaning
"poet," "poetry," and the like, so maybe the Muse referred to
is the Muse of Poetry);
mwyn = kind, gentle, mild, dear (the "m" mutates into an "f," pronounced
like the "f" in English "of," in the line from Mr. Brim's song);
lawen = joyful, merry, glad;
byw = to live (the verb);
byth = forever;
y = the (pronounced like the English word "a" in the phrase "a book.")
po = a particle used to indicate the superlative (the "p" mutates into
a "b" here);
hi = she (pronounced "he," as in Hebrew).
It may be (a wild guess on my part) that "byth y bo" is some sort of Welsh
idiom meaning "for ever and ever." My little dictionary is too small to
include idioms, and by Welsh grammar book is in a carton in a house down
in Baltimore, so I can't look it up. So one of many possible translations
could be:
"May she [i.e., Cambria] live forever and ever in mild, joyful Poetry!"
One can generate many other translations by substituting the other meanings
for the words above, or (even better) by consulting a more comprehensive
dictionary, or (best of all) by asking a native Welsh speaker -- I
understand there are some right in my county (Harford), around Cardiff, Md.,
in quarry country near the Pennsylvania border, but I don't know any of them.
-- Matt Rosenblatt
(matt@amsaa.ARPA)
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