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> 5.12 was added in the late 1970s [I've only seen my first 5.12
> a month ago: a woman (!) climbing a 35 foot overhang roof (horizontal)
> split by a handjam, she peeled off three times while I was watching,
> each time putting in another piece, each time getting pulled back into
> the belay stance (I've off alpine climbing for the most part).]
> 5.13s were added recently.  I've yet to hear of a 5.14 yet.

I've seen only seen a couple 5.12 routes with my own eyes.  Most of them
seem to be contrived out of 5.10 or 5.11 routes with little twists to make
them difficult (no, no, you're only to use the crack....)  The remainder
seem to be face climbs with very few/shallow holds.  I've never seen a
5.13 and couldn't imagine a 5.13+ face climb (!).


> consistently.  I could climb a few 5.10abs at my peak.]  These systems
> break down with ice climbs, alpine climbs, and superalpine climbs as
> done in Pakistan right now.

What is a superalpine route? What is an example of a VII route?

> --eugene
> Formerly with the GPIW. Now Yosemite has been.
> --eugene miya
>   NASA Ames Research Center
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>   emiya@ames-vmsb

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