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2 total messages Started by Barbara J. Orlando-Bimmler Sun, 16 Mar 1986 22:16
Poison
#881
Author: Barbara J. Orlando-Bimmler
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1986 22:16
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Now Jean Smith comes to straighten us all out:

>     Well, pardon me for butting in on this conversation.

No.

>  ... let us revert to the topic of whether suicide is a
>  good idea.

Why?  It's a truth we hold to be self-evident.  You can't prove an axiom.
A mathematician ought to understand *that* much.

> One point not mentioned so far: a suicide very often leaves
> behind friends and relatives who are appalled, shocked, deeply grieved,
> guilt-riddled and so forth. Is this good?

How can you tell?  You're dead.  Or, why would you care?  You're dead.
Get serious!  ("DUMB problem!! DUMB!!!")  Besides, what does 'guilt-riddled'
mean ('guilt-ridden', maybe?).  "What walks on four legs in the morning,
on two legs in the afternoon, and on ten typing fingers at university?"
Or, "Is this the guilty party to whom I am speaking?"

And what is the 'so forth'?  Insouciant?  Ebullient?  Overjoyed?
"Old Poppa Manes finally pulled it off. What a relief!"

>     Last time I posted, I got a letter saying this whole newsgroup is a
> joke. I think it may be wearing a bit thin.

Then post something worthwhile!   If you contribute to the jokester
mentality, how can you expect others to hold a serious conversation?

3/10.  See me after class.  I want you to post one hundred times to
the net, "I will not crack jokes about suicide."

					BJO-B
Was Re: Poison
#886
Author: ph
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1986 15:17
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bjob@alice.UucP (Barbara J. Orlando-Bimmler) writes:
>>  ... let us revert to the topic of whether suicide is a
>>  good idea.
>
>Why?  It's a truth we hold to be self-evident.  You can't prove an axiom.
>A mathematician ought to understand *that* much.

	    Say WHAT?!
	    What you mean "we", paleface?  It may be self-evident to
	you, but it sure as !@&%**^$ isn't to the rest of us.  I hardly
	think that that is the kind of belief basic enough to be
	considered an axiom, either.  You talk about mathematicians--
	learn some math yourself!
	    In a slightly less toasty mode--I think it is entirely
	appropriate to discuss the ethics of suicide here.  Seems a lot
	more worthwhile to me than a canonical list of tried-and-true
	methods.
	    (-: Say, if you think suicide is such a great idea, why
	don't you try it yourself, and put yourself out of our misery?
	Ah, but then you would be dead, and wouldn't care if we were
	happier or not.  Of course. :-)
						--pH
/*
 *	    "Do we go to eat now?"
 *	    "No.  We go now to kill ourselves."
 *	    What a crummy party!
 */
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