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Started by Dick King
Mon, 17 Mar 1986 17:54
Re: 15 versus 30 Year Mortgages
Author: Dick King
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1986 17:54
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1986 17:54
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From: rdr@inuxh.UUCP (Robert Rindfuss) Newsgroups: net.taxes Date: 15 Mar 86 19:00:14 GMT > <<<< > < I prefer the fifteen year note for myself, however, because of the > < psychological difference. My wife and I intend to pay at the 15 year > < rate, and I would rather lose the flexibility and never have either of > < us tempted to slow down the repayment. > > Fifteen years is a long time to plan on not having a really major > emergency or disaster strike. If you have a 30 year loan it may > take willpower to pay it off at a 15 year rate but you wont have > to refinance it if something really bad happens. > I dont understand. If things are such that you actually are able and willing to pay all fifteen years there is no difference between the two loans. If you have an emergency in the first fifteen years there is also little difference. However, with the long loan you are exposed for the full thirty years. You have to claim that the extra nine percent on the payment of the fifteen year loan (assuming the same interest rate of 10%) makes an unmeetable emergency so much more likely for those fifteen years that it compensates for the extra fifteen years of exposure, or (if you are planning to pay at the faster rate even if you take out the longer loan) that emergencies that can be met by dropping down to the contract payments of the 30 year note are common. Since most banks require the mortgage payment to be at most 1/3 of your income or so, you are here claiming that emergencies that can be met by trimming 3% of your income out of the mortgage payment but in no other way are common. Worse than that, if the 'disaster' that struct was you losing your job, you would not be ABLE to refinance it. Lending institutions REALLY don't want to forclose. I know of one couple who DID refinance after a loss of a job. The bank was convinced that they would be able to find a job within a year, and they made a deal that a year's interest would be added to the principle, with the payments to start again after a year (or sooner if a job was found first) with the ending date of the mortgage postponed as necessary to make the payment the same after the moratorium as before. Bob Rindfuss
Re: Re: 15 versus 30 Year Mortgages
Author: Robert Rindfuss
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1986 14:06
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1986 14:06
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_____________________________________________________________________________ Come on now! If you're going to flame someone's followup article, that's fine - just don't sign MY name to it!! It's really not appreciated. Bob Rindfuss ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the header, this article was really from Dick King at Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto CA: > > From: rdr@inuxh.UUCP (Robert Rindfuss) NO, IT WASN'T!!!! > Newsgroups: net.taxes > Date: 15 Mar 86 19:00:14 GMT > > > <<<< > > < I prefer the fifteen year note for myself, however, because of the > > < psychological difference. My wife and I intend to pay at the 15 year > > < rate, and I would rather lose the flexibility and never have either of > > < us tempted to slow down the repayment. > > > > > Fifteen years is a long time to plan on not having a really major > > emergency or disaster strike. If you have a 30 year loan it may > > take willpower to pay it off at a 15 year rate but you wont have > > to refinance it if something really bad happens. > > > > I dont understand. If things are such that you actually are able and > willing to pay all fifteen years there is no difference between the > two loans. If you have an emergency in the first fifteen years there > is also little difference. However, with the long loan you are > exposed for the full thirty years. > > You have to claim that the extra nine percent on the payment of the > fifteen year loan (assuming the same interest rate of 10%) makes an > unmeetable emergency so much more likely for those fifteen years that > it compensates for the extra fifteen years of exposure, or (if you are > planning to pay at the faster rate even if you take out the longer > loan) that emergencies that can be met by dropping down to the > contract payments of the 30 year note are common. > > Since most banks require the mortgage payment to be at most 1/3 of > your income or so, you are here claiming that emergencies that can be > met by trimming 3% of your income out of the mortgage payment but in > no other way are common. > > > Worse than that, if the 'disaster' that struct was you losing your job, you > would not be ABLE to refinance it. > > Lending institutions REALLY don't want to forclose. I know of one > couple who DID refinance after a loss of a job. The bank was convinced > that they would be able to find a job within a year, and they made a > deal that a year's interest would be added to the principle, with the > payments to start again after a year (or sooner if a job was found > first) with the ending date of the mortgage postponed as necessary to > make the payment the same after the moratorium as before. >
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