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Started by ccs026
Tue, 11 Feb 1986 17:43
Regeneration
Author: ccs026
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1986 17:43
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1986 17:43
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I just saw "The Keeper of Traken" and am confused about what the
Master did. He says that he is on his 12th regeneration. At the end
of the episode he takes over the body of Nyssa'a father. How was he
able to do this? The Doctor regenerates by using his own body and the
Master regenerates by taking someone else's? Or was this something
different than regeneration? Whatever he did, he couldn't have used
the power of The Source because his efforts to control it had already
been thwarted by the Doctor.
Mike Keihl
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Re: Regeneration
Author: Allon G. Percus
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1986 23:59
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1986 23:59
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The answer to your question has its roots in the earlier Tom Baker
story "The Deadly Assassin." In that story, the Master's
12th regeneration was just expiring. By coming back to Gallifrey
and using the powers of the Eye of Harmony, he managed to get the
energy necessary to make a 13th regeneration possible. In "The
Keeper of Traken," he took advanatage of this and stole Tremas's
body to effect a nearly perfect 13th regeneration. (It must have
its flaws, however, because in "The Five Doctors," he jumps at
the opprtunity to get an honest-to-goodness regeneration).
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I still insist that The Master simply stole Tremas's body
because he liked the idea of having the body of someone
whose name was an anagram of his own.
Re: Regeneration
Author: nyssa of traken
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1986 12:16
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1986 12:16
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In Keeper of Traken, the Master had absorbed enough energy from
the Source to allow him to seize Tremas' body and use it as his
own. In a later story, The Master is asked about a new regeneration,
to which he replies, "Not exactly."
--
James C. Armstrong, Jnr. {ihnp4,cbosgd,akgua}!abnji!nyssa
"But Doctor, we're on that island!"
"Oh my word!" who said them, what story?
Re: Regeneration
Author: Barth Richards
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1986 22:13
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1986 22:13
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In article <178@ucdavis.UUCP> ccs026@ucdavis.UUCP (ccs026) writes: > I just saw "The Keeper of Traken" and am confused about what the >Master did. He says that he is on his 12th regeneration. At the end >of the episode he takes over the body of Nyssa'a father. How was he >able to do this? The Doctor regenerates by using his own body and the >Master regenerates by taking someone else's? Or was this something >different than regeneration? Whatever he did, he couldn't have used >the power of The Source because his efforts to control it had already >been thwarted by the Doctor. Time Lords have twelve regenerations (therefore thirteen "incarnations," as their first "incarnation" is the result of their birth and not a result of a regeneration). The Master had used up his twelve regenerations and was in a severely degenerated state, but utilizing the lingering power of the Source, he was able to commandeer the body of Tremas (sp?). Therefore effecting a "thirteenth regeneration" and forestalling his own death by foul means. (Not really so much a regeneration as a murder/hijacking.) Barth Richards Tellabs, Inc. Lisle, IL
Re: Regeneration
Author: Dromio
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1986 21:16
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1986 21:16
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In article <178@ucdavis.UUCP> ccs026@ucdavis.UUCP (ccs026) writes: > I just saw "The Keeper of Traken" and am confused about what the >Master did. He says that he is on his 12th regeneration. At the end >of the episode he takes over the body of Nyssa'a father. How was he >able to do this? The Doctor regenerates by using his own body and the >Master regenerates by taking someone else's? Or was this something >different than regeneration? Whatever he did, he couldn't have used >the power of The Source because his efforts to control it had already >been thwarted by the Doctor. Actually, a couple of episodes later on (when the Doctor one again meets the Master), he says that the Master still had some of the power of the source left, apparantly enough to snatch the body in question, and (as I recall the episode) to rejuvenate it to a age suitable to him. The Master had already regenerated normally twelve times, which is the maximum amount of possible regenerations, and had been trying to regenerate again for quite a few episodes. I'm wondering whether the Master will be able to take this new body through a dozen generations as well. Anybody know? a lesser Power of Darkness
Re: Regeneration
Author: Andre Hut
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1986 03:19
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1986 03:19
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In article <226@ulowell.UUCP> laneg@ulowell.UUCP (Dromio) writes:
>In article <178@ucdavis.UUCP> ccs026@ucdavis.UUCP (ccs026) writes:
>I'm wondering whether the Master will be able to take this new
>body through a dozen generations as well. Anybody know?
Let's just say that the Doctor will out survive the Master.
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