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Article #436Re: cs.utexas.edu discrimination charged
From: Michele Tepper
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:00
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:00
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Cyronwode <cyronwode@aol.com> wrote: >mtepper@panix.com (Michele Tepper) wrote: > >Pretending that words (presented electronically from an unseen person) are >analogous to physical threats (like guns and hand grenades) is sloppy >thinking that can lead to no productive results. Words that threaten legal and media action against the recipient are as real as physical threats, and perhaps more dangerous. Since you *still* haven't gotten it, I'm not going to waste my time attempting to reformulate what has already been so eloquently said by others. I'm just going to repeat what Tim Pierce said, since he said it so well (and, unsurprisingly, so tersely): -----begin included message----- In article <4602l7$ahr@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Cyronwode <cyronwode@aol.com> wrote: >I did >nothing to close down that gateway, That is not correct. Your presumptuousness and selfishness contributed to the increasing difficulties that Fletcher Mattox experienced running his gateway. Your eagerness to bring legal claims of discrimination against the University of Texas, however groundless, added weight to the burden he already carried. Your threats of negative media exposure reduced his incentive to continue providing this service -- for anyone. Your vindictiveness has brought about the egalitarian atmosphere that you so desperately wanted; does that please you? You are certainly not to shoulder complete blame for the deactivation of the utexas gateway. Fletcher made that decision on his own, and anyone here must recognize that it was the result of many, many incidents over the last several years. However, the fact that you are not solely responsible for this action does not absolve you. It is quite obvious that you "did something" that partially had the effect of destroying the system. Even more galling, however: despite your halfhearted apologies for acting rashly, you do not seem to comprehend just how destructive it is to treat volunteered, shared resources as a *right*. You do not seem to recognize the long-term, irreversible damage of acting as though such services as these *belong* to you in some way. Attempting to bluster or bluff those who give freely of their resources into kowtowing to your imagined authority only hurts us all in the end, and even after this very graphic demonstration of Usenet politics you seem not to have learned the lesson at its core. I am quite firmly in Russ Allbery's camp on this one. If history remembers you as the person who killed the cs.utexas.edu gateway, it will be exactly what you deserve. -----End included message----- For those who already have clues and do not need to be force-fed them, my apologies for the repetititition. -- Michele Tepper "Willful ignorance, that's my motto." mtepper@panix.com -- Harry Teasley
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1139f4,a66a81315182fe4f X-Google-Attributes: gid1139f4,public X-Google-Thread: 113866,396979f44c3da610 X-Google-Attributes: gid113866,public From: mtepper@panix.com (Michele Tepper) Subject: Re: cs.utexas.edu discrimination charged Date: 1995/10/18 Message-ID: <46324e$6b2@panix2.panix.com> X-Deja-AN: 117727519 references: <460m3f$a9v@panix2.panix.com> <4630jr$n14@newsbf02.news.aol.com> organization: Panix newsgroups: news.admin.misc,austin.internet