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Article #438Re: cs.utexas.edu discrimination charged
From: John Littlefield
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:00
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:00
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In article <4630jr$n14@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, cyronwode@aol.com
(Cyronwode) wrote:
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> > You've destroyed something useful,
>
> No, i did not. *Fletcher* took the gateway down. No amount of *words*
> could have forced him to. It was his choice. His free will. Live with it.
> By manufacturing the analogy of physical force ("an Uzi and hand
> grneades") you prop up the false construct of my having coerced Fletcher
> to shut the gateway and thus you attribute final cause ("destroying
> something useful") to me.
>
> Had you refrained from leaping into the bogus physical threat analogy, you
> would not have made this mistake.
>
> Had you refrained from reversing the sequence of events -- whereby (my
> post>my apology>Fletcher closing the gateway) became (my post>Fletcher
> closing the gateway>my apology) -- you would not have made this mistake
> either.
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> To tell the truth, being "forgiven" by people who cannot think straight,
> and/or who argue from specious analogies, and/or who may be deliberately
> twisting facts to suit a flawed premise is not a high priority on my list
> of life goals.
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Catherine,
You are not only wrong in your view of the story, but you are missing the
point as to how you have completely set off the internet community as a
whole.
On the heels of the FBI arresting Internet 'sex-offenders' (not my
personal opinion), and the increased media attention on government
misappropriations, to accuse someone of improprieties and to threaten
their job _is tantamount to serious physical threat_! You may want to go
back and re-read your email to Fletcher, which very strongly and clearly
pointed out that you were not only upset, but that you intended to make a
big, public issue about it; and that you would not stop until you had
_blood_, preferably Fletcher's and that of the University of Texas (and
with all of the news stories lately, it is easy to conceive that you
wouldn't have been happy until you had won a multi-million dollar lawsuit
against UT - claiming that you had suffered serious emotional distress due
to this service not being available).
If you don't think about what I just said, then it will seem as if these
were the ramblings of a paranoid individual who thinks that the world is
in a state of chaos. Well, if you take the time to reflect (objectively)
on these things, you will notice that everything I mentioned, as a
possible scenario, can be found in the headlines of recent newspapers.
You have done an unpardonable 'net sin', which was to
- violate the respect and regard of communication on the net, by going
off the deep end immediately, instead of being civil about it
- threaten the job of someone who is an innocent victim in this
situation
- threaten the personal well-being of the same individual, because
the things which you threatened could easily turn into jail time
if the right 'liberal' jury got ahold of this one
(I personally believe that Fletcher has no guilt to speak of, and
that this country has lost its sense of Justice - notes for another
thread)
- attack a service which was not a right, but a priviledge
- think only of yourself, and not another person:
I work in the computer industry, and know what it is like to do work
which you love. It is not hard to consider that Fletcher may have
created the gateway in question, on his own time, not using any time
which he was paid for by the University of Texas system. It is also
easy to believe that he had to constantly fight the UT politics to
keep the thing going as long as it did, for reasons less than you
have given him.
As far as the sequence of events is concerned, IT DOESN'T MATTER!
You said things that cannot be excused. After your first adversarial
message, the timeline no longer mattered. You had set things in motion,
which no act of god or nature could stop.
If I were in your position, I would stop responding to the thread about
this, and suck up the criticism like a big girl. It will eventually
stop. BTW: I wouldn't have joined this thread if you had not become so
incensed with defending yourself; you see, someone who is truly sorry for
their actions, does not go around defending their position after the fact.
$.02
Sincerely,
John Littlefield
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