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clueless and newbie are not unions all the time...

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From: Keith "Justified And Ancient" Co...
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 00:00
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In article <4664bc$7pe@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
Cyronwode <cyronwode@aol.com> wrote:
>But i have a serious question for you, referenced in those snippets above:
>How long does a person remain a "newbie" in your opinion? 

For as long as they do newbie things.

>But what is it with this "newbie" thing? Is a half a year on the net (that
>is, posting to usenet; subbing to e-lists; using mail gateways;

Shouldn't that be "closing mail gateways"?

>learning
>html to create a WWW page; participating in RFDs on new groups;

Name one.

>learning
>how to propose new group creation;

Name one.

>locating, dibsing, FAQing, and
>revitalizing abandoned alt.* groups) sufficient to remove the "newbie"
>stigma and leave a person simply "clueless"?

Depends on how you do it.  Threatening people with "legal action"
isn't the way to go.  Screaming "discrimination" isn't the way to go.
Writing long, hate-filled diatribes against things people have volunteered
to do isn't the way to go.

>How about one year? Two
>years? Three? Four?

How long as McElwaine been on the net?

>The reason i ask is that i have been called a "newbie" repeatedly both in
>this thread and by e-mail, but no one -- not even you, who seem to be
>every bit the "Gentleman" you sign yourself -- has ever asked me how long
>i have been on the net. 

That's because _we don't care_.  comp.* runs under different rules than
alt.*  soc.* has different rules than talk.*  Something that is perfectly
accetable in talk.religion.misc would be drummed out by the moderator of
soc.religion.christian.
-- 
According to Kendrick Moxon, lawyer and expert witness for the cult of
Scientology, the fact that Jesus was a pedophile is a part of the cult
of Scientology's holy scriptures.  Read alt.religion.scientology for more!
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From: janda@netcom.com (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran)
Subject: clueless and newbie are not unions all the time...
Date: 1995/10/22
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