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Article #483Re: cs.utexas.edu discrimination charged
From: Bob Izenberg
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:00
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:00
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In article <45fdho$o9o@giga.bga.com>, David Smith <bladex@bga.com> wrote: (Quoting Chip Rosenthal) # : # : So, now we have an AOL user whining that the utexas email gateway, a # : service offered to UT users, and with informal and unofficial access # : granted to the public, whining that they don't like it. # # I narrowed the complaint down to that Fletcher was (1) blocking access to # the gateway because of domainism and (2) not notifying AOLers trying to # use the service that he was doing this. Messages that they sent simply # never appeared. # # Is your response to this still tough roogies? If you were to ask me instead of Chip, I'd say yes. Regarding distilled point (1), I can imagine a decision such as Fletcher made being done by the numbers, not by hoopla about AOL having a bad rep... In fact, I have heard that AOL invited their domain to be blocked from the gateway after they received complaints about spam originating from aol.com . Fletcher may have already had something public to say on that subject. As regards (2), well, he had an arrangement with somebody at AOL. It is not incumbent upon him to take it any further... Don't see how he could, not being a wheel at AOL. If AOL doesn't advertise propagation problems caused by a bad rep amongst news admins, that is surely not the news admins' collective fault. Ask long-time news admins if they know, even only in camp-fire tales, of sites that have filtering in place for Fidonet re-broadcasting... I did, in a state far, far away, to keep a neighbor from sending every article that they received back to me with new article IDs (meaning, they showed up as "new" when they really weren't, causing some distress. I blocked them because of noise they were injecting into the system.... that they were unable to fix themselves. AOL should have a kiddie pool mini-Usenet, supervised, where new net citizens can learn what they need to know to play well with others, without spattering the neighbors with baby food as often as they do now. Letting AOL's users inject noise, in the form of spam, pyramid schemes (illegal!) and other detritus, into the networks outside aol.com is bad citizenship. They know it, and in the case of the UT mail-to-news gateway, suggested how to deal with it. The poster of the original complaint may not have chosen a provider with the best reputation at this time, but by the poster's words, chose to be in character with the worst of what people say about that provider's customers. Followups directed to austin.internet . Bob -- ============================================================ Bob Izenberg home: 512-442-0614 bei@io.com work voice/fax: 512-250-4227/250-6424 ============================================================
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1139f4,a66a81315182fe4f X-Google-Attributes: gid1139f4,public X-Google-Thread: 113866,396979f44c3da610 X-Google-Attributes: gid113866,public From: bei@io.com (Bob Izenberg) Subject: Re: cs.utexas.edu discrimination charged Date: 1995/10/11 Message-ID: <45g91a$egm@bermuda.io.com> X-Deja-AN: 117374337 references: <45eg9h$pa2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <45efns$p1h@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <DG9J5I.9Hv@unicom.com> <45fdho$o9o@giga.bga.com> followup-to: austin.internet organization: Ask me later reply-to: bei@io.com newsgroups: news.admin.misc,austin.internet