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Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu> writes:
>In news.admin.misc, Dave Hayes <dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
>> Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu> writes:
>>> Which is quite understandable, given people like Cat who think they own
>>> the Internet and have a God-given right to use other people's computers.
>> Why do you think this is?
>> Like it or not, the net is about communication. When someone's
>> communication is blocked, that person tends to get a little testy.
>That's the point, Dave; it wasn't.  She could have just used AOL's posting
>service.  If she weren't out pursuing a Cause, this wouldn't have been a
>problem in the first place.

I can't believe your arrogance, it's bigger than *mine*. 

You really believe she doesn't have a problem? 

Did you ask her about this? 

>> You can't provide a service ("millions of people communicating
>> many-to-many"), selectively restrict that service based on some arbitrary
>> standard, and still call yourself providing a service.
>Funny, we seem to be doing fairly well.  Okay, I recommend that no news
>administrator say that they are providing a service according to your
>definitions of providing and service.  Then we can go on running things the
>way they are now and the definition problem will be solved.

*sigh* 

>> This is why I keep saying you people don't understand free speech.
>Your free speech, no.  We like our version, and it works great for us.  

Who's "we"? 

>>> Perhaps people should use the service they're paying for rather than
>>> trying to mooch off other people, then.
>> Do you realize just how controlling the "those who have money make the
>> rules" paradigm is?
>Ignoring for the moment that she had a news service she'd already paid for
>and was just refusing to use it....  No, I don't.  

Obviously. 

>I'm not sure I particularly care, though.

That's the problem. 
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