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In news.admin.misc, Dave Hayes <dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
> Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu> writes:

>> That's the point, Dave; it wasn't.  She could have just used AOL's
>> posting service.  If she weren't out pursuing a Cause, this wouldn't have
>> been a problem in the first place.

> I can't believe your arrogance, it's bigger than *mine*.  You really
> believe she doesn't have a problem?  Did you ask her about this?

Let's see...the first post was because AOL wouldn't let her crosspost and
the gateway would.  Okay, I suppose that's fairly reasonable, but it
certainly isn't restricting her free speech.  She could have still posted,
just not as well.  The second post was to test propogation from
cs.utexas.edu; I don't consider that a problem that the University of Texas
is required to help her with.

The point is that if the gateway isn't working, she's already paying for her
own posting service that works just fine and carries more groups than Texas
does.  So AOL was banned.  Life is unfair.  Get a different provider or use
the resources you're actually paying for.  It's this "I'm a taxpayer, so I
*OWN* EVERYTHING you've EVER TOUCHED!" crusade that gets on my nerves.

>> Your free speech, no.  We like our version, and it works great for us.  

> Who's "we"? 

My different posting personas.  ;)  If you want me to provide a list of
people who agree with me, at least on this point, I could probably come up
with something.  I think you know that.

>> Dave writes:
>>> Do you realize just how controlling the "those who have money make the
>>> rules" paradigm is?

>> Ignoring for the moment that she had a news service she'd already paid for
>> and was just refusing to use it....  No, I don't.  

> Obviously. 

>> I'm not sure I particularly care, though.

> That's the problem. 

Not for me.  :)  Do you realize just how controlling fighting other people's
paradigms is?

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Russ Allbery (rra@cs.stanford.edu)     http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~rra/