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Article #512Re: cs.utexas.edu discrimination charged
From: Matt Schnierle
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:00
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:00
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In article <45ij8a$jpf@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov>, dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) writes:
>Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu> writes:
>>Which is quite understandable, given people like Cat who think they own the
>>Internet and have a God-given right to use other people's computers.
>
>Why do you think this is?
>
>Like it or not, the net is about communication. When someone's
>communication is blocked, that person tends to get a little testy.
So?
>You can't provide a service ("millions of people communicating
>many-to-many"), selectively restrict that service based on some
>arbitrary standard, and still call yourself providing a service.
Back to the original point: utexas _never_ provided a supported service to
those outside utexas. If you reread the post by Fletcher, you will see that
he never publically announced the service, he simply has not excersised his
authority to restrict it untill now. It is not like lycos saying no to AOL
connections. Lycos announces and proclaims netwide availablility. The utexas
gateway never did.
>This is why I keep saying you people don't understand free speech.
>
>>Perhaps people should use the service they're paying for rather than trying
>>to mooch off other people, then.
>
>Do you realize just how controlling the "those who have money make the
>rules" paradigm is?
I do. It is the very paradigm that allows you to argue your platform of
total, complete, free speech, particularly with regard to spam.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 113866,396979f44c3da610 X-Google-Attributes: gid113866,public X-Google-Thread: 1139f4,a66a81315182fe4f X-Google-Attributes: gid1139f4,public From: pyld@grove.iup.edu (Matt Schnierle) Subject: Re: cs.utexas.edu discrimination charged Date: 1995/10/14 Message-ID: <45nelv$q1f@jake.esu.edu> X-Deja-AN: 117592087 references: <45eg9h$pa2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <45efns$p1h@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <DG9J5I.9Hv@unicom.com> <45fdho$o9o@giga.bga.com> <qum68hw65mq.fsf@cyclone.Stanford.EDU>,<45ij8a$jpf@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov> organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of USENET reply-to: pyld@grove.iup.edu newsgroups: news.admin.misc,austin.internet