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Article #603Re: DEMON FAIL TO GIVE NOTICE OF APPEAL
From: Russ Allbery
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:00
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David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) <dformosa@zeta.org.au> writes: > Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> wrote: >> It's still a third-party cancel. The fact that it's a legitimate >> third- party cancel doesn't change that. Third-party cancel just means >> that the cancel is being issued by an entity that wasn't on the posting >> path for the original message. > I don't like this defintion. Firstly it implies that a cancel is first > party even if it is for a post that happened to pass threw a feeder box. A feed server isn't part of the "posting path." Once the article reaches a feed server, it's already been posted. > I would use the following therminology. > 1st party: Cancels by the Author. > 2nd party: Cancels by the Author's sysadmin and cancels of forgeries > by victoms. > 3rd party: All outhers. Once you implement strong authentication like cancel locks, putting forgeries in the second-party group is basically impossible. First and second party cancels are ones that you can authenticate. Third-party cancels are ones that you can't, without something more heavy-weight. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fad9d,71f5b1a8519ffdae X-Google-Attributes: gidfad9d,public X-Google-Thread: 1139f4,2a9230d607c5abbb X-Google-Attributes: gid1139f4,public X-Google-Thread: f6783,71f5b1a8519ffdae X-Google-Attributes: gidf6783,public X-Google-Thread: 10fff2,2a9230d607c5abbb X-Google-Attributes: gid10fff2,public From: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> Subject: Re: DEMON FAIL TO GIVE NOTICE OF APPEAL Date: 1999/06/16 Message-ID: <ylbtefu6bm.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> X-Deja-AN: 490442208 References: <929146515snz1129.os2.7@nospam.demon.co.uk> <37667c28.406661@news.freeserve.co.uk> <m3wvx5s4ot.fsf@hopf.demon.co.uk> <1rvhcps165.fsf@haey.ifi.uio.no> <7k6bu2$648$1@dent.deepthot.aurora.co.us> <yllndlhsrh.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <7k8dka$uht$1@phaedrus.zeta.org.au> Organization: The Eyrie Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,demon.service,uk.legal,uk.net