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[ Article crossposted from alt.fan.kia-mennie ]
[ Author was Sharky (sharky@icom.ca) ]
[ Posted on 8 Sep 1996 20:52:02 GMT ]

K. Marie Mennie wrote:
 
> Here, an opportunity to see me at my crassest: both of you two should
> fuck off. The name of the newsgroup alone should be a great hint that
> it is not your territory.

To which the Admiral replied:

> It's not **YOUR** territory either. It doesn't exist on **YOUR**
> computer. It exists on news servers that have allowed the newgroup
> control message, and haven't removed it **yet**. 
 
This is a notion (appropriate) that is completely lost on our Kia.
She seems to feel that usenet has been developed to cater to her
needs, and be damned with the rest. Why we even bother to respond to
anything she posts is beyond me. No-one on this planet, save for her
boozin' buddies, seems to live up to her expextations of a 'suitable'
newsgroup participant, basically because she allows what she want to
hear, and everything else is bait for cancel messages.

Little does she understand the concept of newsgroups in general, though
she does have an understanding of *her* newsgroup, as she would have us
believe. Take for example any alt.fan.* group. Most, if not all of them
save Mennie's, are not operated or moderated by its namesake. General
guidelines suggest that any discussion of Kia Mennie could take place on
that newsgroup. That is simply not the case. It should, in fact, be
disabled, or at least confined to her own computer, where Im sure it
would blossom.

Given all that has transpired over the last few weeks, telling someone
to fuck off hardly generates a picture of Kia Mennie at her crassest.
Sitting around swilling alcohol with Stewart and Shaver, Bajaj, Bird,
and the others, reminiscing about over 1000 cancel messages
(approximately 1/2 of 1% of all cancel messages issued over the internet
in the last year), and plotting the next step in this covert conspiracy
to keep Carelton, its students, and staff, as well as Ingenia,
completely ignorant of the facts.


Mennie continues....
> >It has a FAQ, but I doubt either of you two would understand it.
 
> Indeed. The most important part of the charter/FAQ is that a.f.k-m
> DOES NOT WELCOME STUPID PEOPLE. That's it. Think of it as a Mensa of
> newsgroups. Elitist as all hell; worse, even; damnably nasty to the
> low-of-IQ, the poor-of-grammar. 

Mennie has constantly battered Yuri Sorkin in posts, nothing I consider
short of pure bigotry. Yuri is neither short of IQ, nor poor of grammar.
No more so than Mennie would appear taking part in this discussion in
Yuri's language. Often equating bigotry with stupidt and ignorance, it
appears as though Kia should be ousting herself from *her* own
newsgroup.

> If you're not cancelled, you'll be
> flamed. 

yeah yeah yeah.

> Both Sorkine and Derbyshire are irrevocably pegged as useless
> posters, and neither are remotely welcome here. To the former: I
> suppose you missed that part of newsgroup etiquette that says you shut
> up and read a group for a bit to get an idea of it/wait for the FAQ
> posting, rather than just ignorantly shoving your little dick in and
> spewing?

To which the Admiral replied...

> This is **NOT** a moderated NG. If any more messages are cancelled
> in it, the ISP of the canceler will be notified. Moreover, it appears that
> it may be appropriate to move discussions on what this newsgroup
> is or isn't over into alt.config.

Agreed. The ng should be confined to neon.ingenia.com's domain, since
they are the ones who propogated it.
 
> HOW OR WHY ANYONE GOT CONNED INTO DISTRIBUTING THIS CRAP
> TO EVERY NEWS SERVER IN THE WORLD IS BEYOND ME!

Given the relationship(s) between Stewart, Shaver, Mennie, et al, it
comes as no surprise to me at all that they expect the rest of the world
to carry their shit. It was simply an exploration in ego-schmoozing, the
mailing list not being enough of a stroke.

The Admiral concludes with...

> FAQ's are general the **OPINIONS** of one or more people and
> are not official charters. Charters and FAQ's are usually included
> in the control newgroup message. It isn't there.

The alt-fan-k-m faq seems to nothing more than unilaterally imposed
conditions of acceptance into the clique, that are flexible enough to
allow tweaking and misinterpretation to suit a post-by-post application.
It is neither content or author oriented. Simply, either we agree with
your post 100%, or it gets cancelled. Its obvious Shaver and Stewart
share in this, plied by Mennie (with whatever it took to schmooze them
into creating and propagating the group).

I rather doubt much will come of it, thanks in large part to the
damage-control campaign by Stewart and Shaver. In some perverse way, its
appropriate that carelton.general is no longer universally distributed.
We no longer can post or read postings there. Neither do we have to
tolerate what comes out of it. The bulk of students there will be made
to suffer the consequences, as well they should. My only hope is that
they understand that it was at the hands of their fellow students that
the damage arose.

I agree, wholeheartedly, that a discussion on alt.config should take
place with regard to the removal of alt.fan.kia-mennie. It is a toal
waste of bandwidth, and it would better serve its clique if it reverted
back to its original state, a mailing list, that is, the state it was in
prior to Stewart and Shaver, under the influence of an unknown amount of
beer, decided it would be, er, amusing. It is not amusing, but rather,
disgusting.

Cancel away, ladies.

Mike