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Sun, 01 Sep 1996 00:00
Some recent cancels from Carleton forgers-censors
Author: Yuri Sorkin
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 00:00
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>From nntp.crl.com!news.callamer.com!news.comptec.com!jolt.pagesat.net!fsc.fujitsu.com!agate!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!hookup!cunews!neon.ingenia.com!kmm Sun Sep 1 11:53:13 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!news.callamer.com!news.comptec.com!jolt.pagesat.net!fsc.fujitsu.com!agate!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!hookup!cunews!neon.ingenia.com!kmm From: kmm@neon.ingenia.com (K.M. Mennie) Newsgroups: carleton.general,can.general,news.admin.net-abuse.misc,alt.fan.kia-mennie,alt.config Subject: cmsg cancel <50bn2s$nhu@wpg-01.escape.ca> Control: cancel <50bn2s$nhu@wpg-01.escape.ca> Date: 1 Sep 1996 11:32:04 GMT Organization: Carleton Department of Semantics and Obfuscation, Ottawa Lines: 1 Message-ID: <50bs7k$i0k@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Reply-To: kmm@aaln.org NNTP-Posting-Host: neon.ingenia.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] >From nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!in-news.erinet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!chi-news.cic.net!newspump.sol.net!news.inc.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-8.sprintlink.net!newsreader.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.s printlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!metro.atlanta.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece Sat Aug 31 20:50:16 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!in-news.erinet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!chi-news.cic.net!newspump.sol.net!news.inc.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-8.sprintlink.net!newsreader.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7. sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!metro.atlanta.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <4vvuij$st4@wpg-01.escape.ca> Control: cancel <4vvuij$st4@wpg-01.escape.ca> Date: 28 Aug 1996 03:35:47 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 162 Message-ID: <500eqj$ots@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <4vvdts$82u@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> <4vvuij$st4@wpg-01.escape.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] The Bathtub Admiral (admiral@escape.ca) wrote: > For the benefit of the header impaired... > On 27 Aug 1996 18:14:20 GMT > in message <4vvdts$82u@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> > kmm@neon.ingenia.com (K.M. Mennie) > added yet another 70 eol markers to can.politics > including these words of wisdom... > >First off, I'm in the States at the moment, and reading/posting news is a > >bit of a bother from here; otherwise, I would've been a much more active > >participant in all the `K.M. Mennie' discussions. > >Many of you took the time to read the e-mail I sent to Turmel, which he > >posted somewhere back at the start of this thread. Many of you didn't, and > >missed some critical points. > >I'd sent him mail (for the second time) noting that his TURMEL: posts had > >nothing to do with carleton.general. Note that he has at no time contacted > >me via mail to discuss the issue. In the second mail, I pointed out that: > >- I had *no* objections to his politics, &c. - If he felt it necessary to > >include a carleton.* group in his cross- posts, carleton.talk.politics was > >the place to do it - Since his TURMEL: posts had nothing to do with > >carleton.general and threre were many other places where they were > >appropriate, I said that I would `unapologetically cancel' any more > >TURMEL: articles in carleton.general. > >This last part, I followed through with. A quick DejaNews search should > >retrieve the cancel message with my name on it; this is not in dispute. > >Note, however, that Turmel's initial article was the only post I cancelled > >in the resulting TURMEL:/`K.M. Mennie as Satan' threads, despite some > >allegations to the contrary. > >The `threat' and subsequent cancel had nothing to do with censorship; > >those claiming it as such would be well advised to invest in better > >dictionaries. > >I am not a `self-appointed moderator' of carleton.general. I am, however, > >a regular reader/participant in the group, and for that reason have a > >vested interest in its being a cohesive, useful newsgroup. I cancel > >advertisements on it with some regularity. The vast majority of > >carleton.general readers are happy to not see `Make Money Fast!1!' posts > >cluttering the discussion. > >The problem with this sort of action, obviously, is that it is > >*impossible* to reach consensus on what should and should not be on > >carleton.general. The best defense I can offer to the people unhappy with > >what they mistakenly view as `censorship' is the number of people who're > >happy to see somebody trying to *improve* carleton.general. Nobody can > >please everyone, and my position at present is that the recent discontent > >is the price one pays for the greater good. > >I should also note that, contrary to popular belief, *anybody* can cancel > >*anybody's* post. No unique tools and no specialized level of access are > >needed. Again, my feeling is that third-party cancellations do more good > >than harm -- though I do fully admit that some cancellations do wound > >egos, offend, &c, I think it's an inevitable consequence of the actions > >necessary to keep newsgroups as usable discussion areas. > >Anyone wishing to further discuss `K.M. Mennie' (`' used here since much > >of what has been posted about me has little or no relation to myself; qv > >items relating to student status/origins of my postings/affiliations with > >Vassar) is welcome do to so, but I suggest it be moved to e-mail -- I am > >certainly not an appropriate topic in these newsgroups (apologies to those > >who are bored to tears with these threads, but I felt this post necessary > >and am making it with an eye to ending the discussion). I am quite open > >to /rational, calm and coherent/ discussion of the issues surrounding > >third- party cancellation. My views on the subject are in no way set in > >stone. > >My views on ignorance, however, are set in stone. > >-- > ><news:alt.fan.kia-mennie> <web:http://aaln.org/ht_lit/> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Partial listing of cancels in a six day period... > 96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <321E3BCD.17 carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <keithp-2408 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <poole.56.78 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <poole.56.75 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/26 025 cmsg cancel <4vq7k3$i6v@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/24 024 cmsg cancel <4vm1es$rv1@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/24 024 cmsg cancel <4vllkh$gnl@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/24 024 cmsg cancel <4vlru5$39m@ alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 024 cmsg cancel <ascentec-21 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 023 cmsg cancel <DwE4JK.FDC@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <poole.56.44 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <3210B849.70 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/23 023 cmsg cancel <4vb7ls$ffg@ alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vgr92$c1f@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vfnf0$5d9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vfnhj$5d9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vfnjj$5d9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vhq1l$442@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vf4pj$dns@ alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vd76f$4rb@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 023 cmsg cancel <3215DD6C.37 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 023 cmsg cancel <3218CA96.49 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <320C46CB.1C alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <32183818.50 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v72nk$3rb@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/16 022 cmsg cancel <84015653693 alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/15 022 cmsg cancel <Pine.LNX.3. alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/15 022 cmsg cancel <321253E3.6E alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/15 022 cmsg cancel <3212556F.77 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vb6sp$eb9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va8vu$sev@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vbf3t$n4m@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vbar2$hss@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va93g$sev@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va9ej$sev@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v371a$fc3@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v9ao4$pi7@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <3210B508.27 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v7le8$qdq@ can.politics kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v8fur$65j@ can.politics kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v3726$fc3@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <Dw7LGJ.9F0@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v59ft$vtm@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v370d$fc3@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v5rnk$bdk@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v5tki$cgn@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v6vdt$241@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v5vfo$dtl@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4ve397$nb3@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4vf696$hva@ carleton.students.s kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4veac0$s3v@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4veahm$s3v@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4vetsh$9jq@ carleton.students.s kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4vdk4t$70f@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4ve3d4$nb3@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va7c8$q16@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4v9p6o$9aj@ carleton.forsale kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4v9fl4$q2j@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vck5m$jl7@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vcju7$jl7@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/27 021 cmsg cancel <31F8CA8D.40 misc.consumers kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F33196.49 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F6F618.58 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F81604.42 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/27 021 cmsg cancel <31F8CA8D.40 misc.consumers kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F33196.49 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F6F618.58 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > 96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F81604.42 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > (NG headers modified) --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general >From nntp.crl.com!newshub.cts.com!nuhou.aloha.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.lava.net!nntp.reed.edu!nntp.teleport.com!news.serv.net!news.alt.net!news1.alt.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!nntp04.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.co m!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece Fri Aug 30 21:47:25 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!newshub.cts.com!nuhou.aloha.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.lava.net!nntp.reed.edu!nntp.teleport.com!news.serv.net!news.alt.net!news1.alt.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!nntp04.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.c om!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <504gq1$3th@ns1.vrx.net> Control: cancel <504gq1$3th@ns1.vrx.net> Date: 29 Aug 1996 19:34:46 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 0 Message-ID: <504rcm$31r@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <504gq1$3th@ns1.vrx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] >From nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!ico.net!news.zeitgeist.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece Sat Aug 31 20:34:43 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!ico.net!news.zeitgeist.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <322549e2.40098360@news.newcomm.net> Control: cancel <322549e2.40098360@news.newcomm.net> Date: 29 Aug 1996 15:53:42 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 266 Message-ID: <504ee6$i3i@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] .....John Jenkins Sr (jenkins@newcomm.net) wrote: > On 27 Aug 1996 18:14:20 GMT, kmm@neon.ingenia.com (K.M. Mennie) wrote to > All: > >First off, I'm in the States at the moment, > At the Republican Convention, no doubt. > >and reading/posting news is a bit of a bother from here; otherwise, > >I would've been a much more active participant in all the `K.M. Mennie' > >discussions. > Sure. Cancelling all posts critical of KMM. > >Many of you took the time to read the e-mail I sent to Turmel, which he > >posted somewhere back at the start of this thread. Many of you didn't, and > >missed some critical points. > You, yourSELF, are the critical point of this whole mess, Mennie. > SELF appointed > SELF righteous > SELF important > SELF impressed > SELF deluding > The subject line shows you to have other 'qualities'. Dishonesty, > fraudulence and furtiveness among them. 'I cancelled a post'. Just one > post? > Did you forget cancelling these: > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Partial listing of cancels in a SIX DAY PERIOD...Courtesy of admiral@escape.ca > >96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <321E3BCD.17 carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <keithp-2408 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <poole.56.78 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/25 026 cmsg cancel <poole.56.75 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/26 025 cmsg cancel <4vq7k3$i6v@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/24 024 cmsg cancel <4vm1es$rv1@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/24 024 cmsg cancel <4vllkh$gnl@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/24 024 cmsg cancel <4vlru5$39m@ alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 024 cmsg cancel <ascentec-21 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 023 cmsg cancel <DwE4JK.FDC@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <poole.56.44 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <3210B849.70 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/23 023 cmsg cancel <4vb7ls$ffg@ alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vgr92$c1f@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vfnf0$5d9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vfnhj$5d9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vfnjj$5d9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vhq1l$442@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vf4pj$dns@ alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/22 023 cmsg cancel <4vd76f$4rb@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 023 cmsg cancel <3215DD6C.37 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 023 cmsg cancel <3218CA96.49 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <320C46CB.1C alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 023 cmsg cancel <32183818.50 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v72nk$3rb@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/16 022 cmsg cancel <84015653693 alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/15 022 cmsg cancel <Pine.LNX.3. alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/15 022 cmsg cancel <321253E3.6E alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/15 022 cmsg cancel <3212556F.77 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vb6sp$eb9@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va8vu$sev@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vbf3t$n4m@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vbar2$hss@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va93g$sev@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va9ej$sev@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v371a$fc3@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v9ao4$pi7@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <3210B508.27 alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v7le8$qdq@ can.politics kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v8fur$65j@ can.politics kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v3726$fc3@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <Dw7LGJ.9F0@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v59ft$vtm@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/19 022 cmsg cancel <4v370d$fc3@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v5rnk$bdk@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v5tki$cgn@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v6vdt$241@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/18 022 cmsg cancel <4v5vfo$dtl@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4ve397$nb3@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4vf696$hva@ carleton.students.s kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4veac0$s3v@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4veahm$s3v@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4vetsh$9jq@ carleton.students.s kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4vdk4t$70f@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/21 022 cmsg cancel <4ve3d4$nb3@ alt.fan.kia-mennie kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4va7c8$q16@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4v9p6o$9aj@ carleton.forsale kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4v9fl4$q2j@ alt.hypertext kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vck5m$jl7@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/08/20 022 cmsg cancel <4vcju7$jl7@ carleton.general kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/27 021 cmsg cancel <31F8CA8D.40 misc.consumers kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F33196.49 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F6F618.58 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F81604.42 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/27 021 cmsg cancel <31F8CA8D.40 misc.consumers kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F33196.49 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F6F618.58 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > >96/07/26 021 cmsg cancel <31F81604.42 alt.fashion kmm@neon.ingenia.co > You've been a very busy girl, Mennie. Cancelling an average of eleven or > twelve posts daily. Most official moderators, of high volume groups, don't > come close to matching your surreptitious zeal. And you are not even a > moderator! Seems like that knot in your knickers really brings out the > busy-body in you. > What's your problem? PMS time? Raging hormonal imbalance? Arithmetically > challenged? Or just an ignorant bitch, sneaking around cancelling every > post which offends your own personal sensibilities? > Do you sneak around the neighbourhood each morning, cutting articles out of > the newly delivered newspapers? > > >I'd sent him mail (for the second time) noting that his TURMEL: posts had > >nothing to do with carleton.general. > Translation: You advised Turmel that, in your very un-humble opinion, his > posts were of no interest to anyone reading carleton.general. > > Note that he has at no time contacted > >me via mail to discuss the issue. > Translation: Turmel rightly disregarded your unofficial, unsolicited > opinions; understandably considering them the delusions of grandeur of some > unbalanced idiot. > >In the second mail, I pointed out that: > > - I had *no* objections to his politics, &c. > What magnanimity! On behalf of everyone at Carleton! > > - If he felt it necessary to include a carleton.* group in his cross- posts, > > carleton.talk.politics was the place to do it > And generousity! > >- Since his TURMEL: posts had nothing to do with carleton.general and > > threre were many other places where they were appropriate, I said that > > I would `unapologetically cancel' any more TURMEL: articles in > > carleton.general. > And what an arrogant fucking busy-body! > >This last part, I followed through with. A quick DejaNews search should > >retrieve the cancel message with my name on it; this is not in dispute. > No...But you conveniently neglected to mention the rest of your compulsive > do-gooding. The other 60 cancellations which you made that week. > >Note, however, that Turmel's initial article was the only post I cancelled > >in the resulting TURMEL:/`K.M. Mennie as Satan' threads, despite some > >allegations to the contrary. > Yeah. You were too busy trying to cancel everything else on usenet. > >The `threat' and subsequent cancel had nothing to do with censorship; > >those claiming it as such would be well advised to invest in better > >dictionaries. > And you, Mennie, should invest in some serious psychiatric counselling. > >I am not a `self-appointed moderator' of carleton.general. > Anyone who takes on, uninvited and unauthorised, the task of covertly > moderating a group, is a 'self-appointed moderator. All of your irrational > obfuscations cannot refute that. > >I am, however, a regular reader/participant in the group, and for > >that reason have a vested interest in its being a cohesive, useful > >newsgroup. I cancel advertisements on it with some regularity. > A classic do-gooding busy-body. Take your estrogen! > >The vast majority of carleton.general readers are happy to not see > >`Make Money Fast!1!' posts cluttering the discussion. > Yes, but you're making up their minds for them, aren't you? D'you consider > the 'real' carleton.general readers lacking in judgement? Reading your > rationale, I perceive your own judgement as being the one which is out of > touch with reality. > > >The problem with this sort of action, obviously, is that it is > >*impossible* to reach consensus on what should and should not be on > >carleton.general. > Good point. So you feel that, lacking a consensus, you have the right to > take matters into your own hands. You do have a problem. > >The best defense I can offer to the people unhappy with > >what they mistakenly view as `censorship' > If it walks like a duck; quacks like a duck, and cancells a dozen posts a > day...It's a Mennie. And Mennie is a self-appointed censor. > >is the number of people who're > >happy to see somebody trying to *improve* carleton.general. Nobody can > >please everyone, and my position at present is that the recent discontent > >is the price one pays for the greater good. > Mennie! Nothing infuriates people more than someone making unauthorised > decisions on their behalf, behind their backs. That phrase 'for their own > good' or 'the greater good' has been acknowledged as the epitome of > bullshit from the day it was first uttered by Attila, as he ordered a few > hundred prisoners impaled. Smarten up. At least try to be honest with > yourself. You know the real reasons for your actions. You're on a power > trip! > >I should also note that, contrary to popular belief, *anybody* can cancel > >*anybody's* post. No unique tools and no specialized level of access are > >needed. > Tin, and the procedure are openly available. Even Carleton inmates can dope > it out. > >Again, my feeling is that third-party cancellations do more good > >than harm -- > Just so long as the third party is Kia Mennie; right? What a distorted ego! > > though I do fully admit that some cancellations do wound > >egos, offend, &c, I think it's an inevitable consequence of the actions > >necessary to keep newsgroups as usable discussion areas. > With a couple more like you around...There'd be nothing left to discuss. > >Anyone wishing to further discuss `K.M. Mennie' (`' used here since much > >of what has been posted about me has little or no relation to myself; qv > >items relating to student status/origins of my postings/affiliations with > >Vassar) is welcome do to so, but I suggest it be moved to e-mail -- I am > >certainly not an appropriate topic in these newsgroups (apologies to those > >who are bored to tears with these threads, but I felt this post necessary > >and am making it with an eye to ending the discussion). I am quite open > >to /rational, calm and coherent/ discussion of the issues surrounding > >third- party cancellation. My views on the subject are in no way set in > >stone. > The subscribers to carleton.general should seriously consider taking the > requisite steps to remove your access. My analogy to the newspaper above is > pertinent. Try sneaking around, cutting out articles, columns, and > advertisements from the daily paper; just before it's delivered to the > subscribers. You'd get the counselling you need if you tried that. And that > is precisely what you've been doing to various groups on usenet. If only > *one* subscriber wishes to read an article you've cancelled, you've stolen > that subscriber's right to do so. > You whine on about improving the standards of carleton.general. But your > censorship activities are not confined to that group. DejaNews shows your > cancellations spanning a half-dozen groups, including can.politics. > Are you planning to expand your censorship to cover all of usenet? We'll be > watching for you, Mennie. Running DejaNews once every couple of weeks, and > posting the results, should help in keeping your mailbox full. > >My views on ignorance, however, are set in stone. > And so, it appears, is your own arrogance. > >-- > ><news:alt.fan.kia-mennie> <web:http://aaln.org/ht_lit/> > -- > JohnJenkins Sr. - jenkins@newcomm.net > _________________________________________________________________ > There're are six classes of people. Those who divide people into > two classes, and those who can't count. I belong to the first class! > _______________________________________________________________ --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general >From nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.walltech.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece Sat Aug 31 20:35:38 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.walltech.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <rwhite.841217462@superior> Control: cancel <rwhite.841217462@superior> Date: 29 Aug 1996 04:42:40 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 72 Message-ID: <503740$j0v@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <rwhite.841217462@superior> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Robert White (rwhite@superior.carleton.ca) wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > NEWS SEARCH RESULTS:: [KEYWORD:: cancelling] lycos 2.21 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > It all has to do with certain commands that only the newsgroup > computer understands. If you save a post, you will see at the beginning > of the saved message a list of information -- "Subject" "From" "Path" > "Newsgroups" "Message-ID" etc... > > Cancel messages have these headers also, but what comes after them > differs greatly. If you want to cancel a message, save that person's > message in your directory. Then post your own message on that same > newsgroup and here's what you have to do: > When the stuff comes up on your screen you have to edit the > headers. But first bring up the saved message that you wanted to cancel > by pressing control-R, paying attention only to the headers (the actual > writing in the message you can ingnore). > Now just create a fake cancel message, with the author ID forged. > To do this the headers have to look like so: > Subject: cmsg cancel <Message-ID> > Sender: e-mail address of person that corresponds to "Message-ID". > Control: cancel <Message-ID> > Newsgroups: whatever newsgroup(s) you want to erase the message from. > The "Message-ID" is the wierd numbers and letters that appear > after the header "Message-ID:" in the headers of the original post that > you saved and then inserted onto your screen. That ID is the special tag > that identifies the specific post that you are trying to eradicate. After > the header "Sender:" the e-mail address must be the same as the original > address of the person who posted the message that you are trying to > delete. > > "cmsg" tells the computer that what follows is a "Control > Message". Control is a good word for them to have chosen, because with your > post you are indeed controlling the make-up of the newsgroup. > Now erase the message that you inserted from your saved directory, > leaving only the headers for the cancel message that you are creating > (those ones up top, and whatever default ones the newsreader puts up > there). Make sure you use "Sender:" and not "From:". "From:" don't work. > What "Sender:" does is trick the head computer that controls all this stuff > into thinking that the person making the cancel request is indeed the > person that made the post in the first place (which, of course is not > really that person) > Then you just post the message, and watch the other individual's > posting disappear. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > END LYCOS SEARCH > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ----------------------------------------- Carleton University ---------- > Robert G. White Dept. of Psychology > Ottawa, Ontario. CANADA > INTERNET ADDRESS ----- rwhite@ccs.carleton.ca ------------------- E-MAIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general >From nntp.crl.com!acara.snsnet.net!news.scott.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!newsreader.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-12.sprintlink.net!snunews.snu.ac.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.postech.ac.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co .kr!newsrelay.netins.net!news.netins.net!mr.net!news.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece Sat Aug 31 20:42:29 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!acara.snsnet.net!news.scott.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!newsreader.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-12.sprintlink.net!snunews.snu.ac.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.postech.ac.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.c o.kr!newsrelay.netins.net!news.netins.net!mr.net!news.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <322455CE.AEB@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de> Control: cancel <322455CE.AEB@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de> Date: 28 Aug 1996 19:12:58 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5025nq$dc3@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Thomas Hamfler (hamf1330@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de) wrote: > J.J. wrote: > > > > Check out this page...... > > > > http://homepage.interaccess.com/~jerj/ > > > > ... it's about the upcoming election. If you like it and know of other > > things I should put on it ... let me know! Also, if you agree > > with me, and have a web page or know of someone with a page ... please > > make a link to my page. I feel we must get the > > word out about he upcoming election, and I think that this would really > > help. I've sent my page to various search engines, > > but I don't know if my page will ever be seen on them. I want my > > simple, but powerful page seen by all! If you make a link, > > please let me know the address, I would love to check out the page. If > > you know of any other way that I can help with the > > upcoming election, please let me know! > > > > Thanks for your time!I think Bob Dole and the republican party are a kind of fashists --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general >From nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!ico.net!news.zeitgeist.net!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.texas.net!nntp04.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!NewsWatcher!user Sat Aug 31 20:52:45 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!ico.net!news.zeitgeist.net!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.texas.net!nntp04.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!NewsWatcher!user From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <4voto2$3ui@panix.com> Control: cancel <4voto2$3ui@panix.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 16:10:28 -0400 Organization: Carleton University Lines: 3 Message-ID: <smeece-2508961610280001@192.0.2.1> References: <4voto2$3ui@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece x-no-archive: yes In article <4voto2$3ui@panix.com>, kkoller@sarcasm.com wrote: > Kia's just anti-semitic, which is why it ended. >From nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!in-news.erinet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!chi-news.cic.net!newspump.sol.net!nntp0.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!cpk-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnpl anet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece Sat Aug 31 20:40:07 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!in-news.erinet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!chi-news.cic.net!newspump.sol.net!nntp0.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!cpk-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnp lanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <rwhite.841273314@superior> Control: cancel <rwhite.841273314@superior> Date: 29 Aug 1996 01:04:14 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 55 Message-ID: <502qae$79p@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <502h12$pno@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> <rwhite.841273314@superior> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Robert White (rwhite@superior.carleton.ca) wrote: > 1.. A bank account is needed if charges are laid. And they will > be! So... which scumbag chartered bank should we choose to > hold the monies? Frankly, a credit union seems more PC than > a chartered bank. Those bastards are making record profits > this year and it's time to support credit unions because of > that. > 2.. An event entitled 'Kia is GOING TO JAIL' might be appropriate > to wrench some dollars out of the masses. Carleton can donate > Porter Hall for the occassion and we can find some Canadian > band to take over entertainment so that there will be some > happy campers amongst Kia's loyal cronies sobbing in their > brewskies. Admission should be quite costly so Kia will have > extra money to purchase 'cotton underwear' from the UK for > her stay in the Kingston pen for women. She will also need > lots-O-cartons of cigarettes so that she will have POWER > n' CONTROL amongst fellow inmates. Lets not disregard > protection money for the ladies mafia in the Queens Pen. > 3.. I would suggest getting Labbats to donate brew for the > Porter Hall gig. We need a lobby to harrass the CEO to > cough up me thinks. Moreover, we might be able to get > a cigarette manufacturer to donate the smokes for her > vacation in the Queens Pen. Things to think about and > mull over. > 4.. We need free advertising as well. > 5.. How about a Carleton lottery to help with legal fees? > So many choices and such little time! > ;| > Robert > -- > ----------------------------------------- Carleton University ---------- > Robert G. White Dept. of Psychology > Ottawa, Ontario. CANADA > INTERNET ADDRESS ----- rwhite@ccs.carleton.ca ------------------- E-MAIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general >From nntp.crl.com!acara.snsnet.net!news.scott.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakim i!smeece Sat Aug 31 20:40:53 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!acara.snsnet.net!news.scott.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!nott!cunews!wabaki mi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <rwhite.841265708@superior> Control: cancel <rwhite.841265708@superior> Date: 29 Aug 1996 01:02:53 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 32 Message-ID: <502q7t$79p@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <rwhite.841265708@superior> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Robert White (rwhite@superior.carleton.ca) wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > The following is to be taken as a formal vote for moderation or > non-moderation on 'carleton.general'. PLEASE indicate whether > you want moderation by voting YES in the body of the post, or > NO in the body of the post. DO NOT include anything else in > the body of the post except the YES or NO answer. > NOTE: Vote results will be counted at the end of September > 1996 and the question of moderation will be settled > at that time. If moderation is chosen, there will > be another vote for a moderator in October when a > majority of students and faculty will be on-line. > Nominations can be made in October. Further, this > vote is only applicable to Carleton students and > Carleton faculty. Computing service staff are not > permitted to vote as they are not faculty or > students. Alumni will be permitted to vote if they > reside in Canada and can verify attending Carleton. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general >From nntp.crl.com!newshub.cts.com!atmnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!howland.ero ls.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece Sat Aug 31 20:44:03 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!newshub.cts.com!atmnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!howland.er ols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!nott!cunews!wabakimi!smeece From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <rwhite.841216118@superior> Control: cancel <rwhite.841216118@superior> Date: 28 Aug 1996 16:30:13 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 81 Message-ID: <501s6l$3sa@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <rwhite.841216118@superior> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Robert White (rwhite@superior.carleton.ca) wrote: > Dear Carleton USENET users, > I have managed to attain the instructions on cancelling posts > and thought I would share the information with all so that > _everyone_ can utilize this information. Now we have parity > in terms of technological knowhow. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > NEWS SEARCH RESULTS:: [KEYWORD:: cancelling] lycos 2.21 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > [.] > It all has to do with certain commands that only the newsgroup > computer understands. If you save a post, you will see at the beginning > of the saved message a list of information -- "Subject" "From" "Path" > "Newsgroups" "Message-ID" etc... > > Cancel messages have these headers also, but what comes after them > differs greatly. If you want to cancel a message, save that person's > message in your directory. Then post your own message on that same > newsgroup and here's what you have to do: > When the stuff comes up on your screen you have to edit the > headers. But first bring up the saved message that you wanted to cancel > by pressing control-R, paying attention only to the headers (the actual > writing in the message you can ingnore). > Now just create a fake cancel message, with the author ID forged. > To do this the headers have to look like so: > Subject: cmsg cancel <Message-ID> > Sender: e-mail address of person that corresponds to "Message-ID". > Control: cancel <Message-ID> > Newsgroups: whatever newsgroup(s) you want to erase the message from. > The "Message-ID" is the wierd numbers and letters that appear > after the header "Message-ID:" in the headers of the original post that > you saved and then inserted onto your screen. That ID is the special tag > that identifies the specific post that you are trying to eradicate. After > the header "Sender:" the e-mail address must be the same as the original > address of the person who posted the message that you are trying to > delete. > > "cmsg" tells the computer that what follows is a "Control > Message". Control is a good word for them to have chosen, because with your > post you are indeed controlling the make-up of the newsgroup. > Now erase the message that you inserted from your saved directory, > leaving only the headers for the cancel message that you are creating > (those ones up top, and whatever default ones the newsreader puts up > there). Make sure you use "Sender:" and not "From:". "From:" don't work. > What "Sender:" does is trick the head computer that controls all this stuff > into thinking that the person making the cancel request is indeed the > person that made the post in the first place (which, of course is not > really that person) > Then you just post the message, and watch the other individual's > posting disappear. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > END LYCOS SEARCH > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ----------------------------------------- Carleton University ---------- > Robert G. White Dept. of Psychology > Ottawa, Ontario. CANADA > INTERNET ADDRESS ----- rwhite@ccs.carleton.ca ------------------- E-MAIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general Sharky (sharky@icom.ca) wrote: > John Turmel wrote: > > On Aug. 13, newsgroupobenfuhrer Damsel Mennie spat: > > #Hello? > > #This has *nothing* to do with carleton.general. The *last* thing > > #carleton.general needs is widely x-posted rants. If you have something > > #you honestly believe to be a) political and b) of interest to Carleton > > #students to the extent where it's a Carleton matter more than a local; > > #ott.*, national, can.*, &c.] matter, learn how to post to > > #`carleton.talk.politics.' > > #Next time I see a TURMEL: spew on carleton.general that doesn't belong > > #there, I'll just cancel it without apology. I have nothing against your > > #opinions, just your misuse of newsgroups. > Have to agree with you here John. Damsel Mennie is out of line. Another > example of one person dictating to the masses what is acceptible and > what is not. Its disgusting. > > Then, on Aug. 22, jeff Woods sprachen: > > > #I only wish I'd thought of doing it first. (I'm still not reading your > > #threads, John, but I the subject line here intrigued me so much that I > > #had to take a peek. > > #Three cheers for the brilliant one who cancelled the posts. (And you > > #can find out who it was by checking the "control" group on your local > > #news server. (And yes, whoever did it was within his rights to cancel > > #any post that is clearly off topic. A rambling legal transcript is, > > #IMO, off topic in this newsgroup). > > #Have a nice life. Just don't ram your legal problems down OUR throats. > > #------------------------------- > Jeff was only 'following orders'... > And then...Newsgroupobenfuhrer Damsel Mennie spracht: > > #In article <321B370B.2DEB@delta.com>, Jeff Woods <jeff@delta.com> wrote: > > #:John Turmel wrote: > > #:> TURMEL: Threat to Cancel Quebec Gaming House Articles > > #:Three cheers for the brilliant one who cancelled the posts. > > #Thank you. > > # > > #:And your news server. (And yes, whoever did it was within his rights > > #:to cancel any post that is clearly off topic. A rambling legal > > #:transcript is, IMO, off topic in this newsgroup). > > # > > #In the mail of mine that he posted excerpts of, I just objected to it > > #being posted in carleton.general, pointed out that it didn't belong there, > > #that it wasn't the first time it'd been pointed out to him, and that it > > #would be cancelled if it showed up in carleton.general again, and that I > > #would/have leave it alone in other groups. For him to get his panties in a > > #knot after something so explicit -- how embarrassing for the poor man. > > #I notice the latest TURMEL: Spew didn't make it to carleton.general, > > #too. I don't read the other newsgroups enough to be so strong-armed, so > > #to speak, on them, but I suggest a similar approach might work for the > > #other groups; I'm pretty sure it's not on topic for most of them, either. > Accccchhhhhhh. Another 'Mutual Ass-Kissin' Collective. Are these people > students? Try 'FairPlay 101', clods... > #<news:alt.fan.kia-mennie> > <web:http://aaln.org/ht_lit/> > > #------------------------------- > Oh-oh. There you have it. Ego-mania to boot. > Finally, John Turmel bumps the stakes... > > 7. In the meantime, I'll raise by posting to the carleton.general > > newsgroup again. Maybe she really thinks she's right and will strong- > > arm her eraser again? > She will. Bet ya. > :> > Mike --- Steven Meece http://chat.carleton.ca/~smeece "A police baton across the skull is the clearest example of 'government interference with the individual' that I can imagine." -- from ont.general >From nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.walltech.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!neon.ingenia.com!kmm Fri Aug 30 14:43:00 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!syix.com!sierra.net!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.walltech.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!neon.ingenia.com!kmm From: kmm@neon.ingenia.com (K.M. Mennie) Newsgroups: alt.skincare.acne Subject: cmsg cancel <4vul2o$3jg@morse.ukonline.co.uk> Control: cancel <4vul2o$3jg@morse.ukonline.co.uk> Date: 28 Aug 1996 07:38:09 GMT Organization: Carleton Department of Semantics and Obfuscation, Ottawa Lines: 1 Message-ID: <500t11$8s0@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Reply-To: kmm@aaln.org NNTP-Posting-Host: neon.ingenia.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] >From nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!ico.net!news.zeitgeist.net!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.texas.net!nntp04.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!NewsWatcher!user Fri Aug 30 15:23:35 1996 Path: nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!ico.net!news.zeitgeist.net!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.texas.net!nntp04.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!cunews!NewsWatcher!user From: smeece@chat.carleton.ca (Steven Meece) Newsgroups: alt.alt Subject: cmsg cancel <4voto2$3ui@panix.com> Control: cancel <4voto2$3ui@panix.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 16:10:28 -0400 Organization: Carleton University Lines: 3 Message-ID: <smeece-2508961610280001@192.0.2.1> References: <4voto2$3ui@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: smeece x-no-archive: yes In article <4voto2$3ui@panix.com>, kkoller@sarcasm.com wrote: > Kia's just anti-semitic, which is why it ended.
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