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Re: Newsgroup creation guidelines (was Re: Folklore, synth, and guidelines)

#105
From: Ed McGuire
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:45
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In article <1992Dec15.200011.18509@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:

   Multiple changes should only be placed on a single ballot if no
   more than a single existing group or hierarchy of groups is
   directly affected by the change.  A group is directly affected by
   the change if a successful "yes" vote would change the name or the
   charter of that group.

   The RFDs and CFVs for name changes and reorganizations should
   be clearly labelled in the Subject line with the acronym RFD
   or CFD and the name of the newsgroup or newsgroup hierarchy
   which would be directly affected by the proposed change.

This second paragraph is fine.  However, multiple ballots created by
the first paragraph would needlessly complicate multiple hierarchy
renames, especially in the case where some renames are only meaningful
when others are successful.  I would suggest duplicate posts of the
same ballot with different subject lines in each affected hierarchy.
This solves the problem and allows for clear Subject: lines.

   As a reader of news, you should be alert to RFD or CFV
   messages which mention newsgroups or newsgroup hierarchies
   which you read.  If the reorganization votes pass, these
   groups may get new names.   There will be a transition period
   when some articles will appear in the old newsgroup and others
   in the new newsgroup, since some site administrators will not
   merge or alias the old and new newsgroups. 

This is a good suggestion, but readers depend purely on the actual
ballot for instructions.  If they read a document on how to
participate in voting, fine; but as an addition to the guidelines as
you suggest, this will be an ineffective warning.  However, most of
the paragraph legitimately belongs in the ballot document.  What about
including a sample ballot as an appendix to the guidelines with this
text included?
-- 
Ed McGuire                   1603 LBJ Freeway, Suite 780
Systems Administrator/       Dallas, Texas 75234
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Intellection, Inc.           <ed@intellection.com>
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From: emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup creation guidelines (was Re: Folklore, synth, and guidelines)
In-Reply-To: strom@Watson.Ibm.Com's message of Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:00:11 GMT
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References: <Bz4G3p.6v7@rice.edu> <1992Dec14.125756.7888@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>
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 <1992Dec15.200011.18509@watson.ibm.com>
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