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In article <92365.104636EH9174A@auvm.american.edu> EH9174A@auvm.american.edu writes:
>The notorious files that are simultaneously posted in various soc.culture files
> every day and are from the same source rarely have well documented sources.  T
>he documentation of sources is a requirement for posting and is listed as such
>in etiquette in the help files.  This individual (most know him/her by now) sel
>dom sites the sources of his avalanche of viewpoints (appearing over 10 or more
> times per day).  No human could possibly type so much!  Replies sent to this f
>ile are always rejected (i.e. sent back).  All of the described are violations
>of netnews etiquette.  Who is the etiquette expert and enforcer?  Or is there o
>ne?

Welcome to Usenet!

No. There is no "higher authority" on Usenet.  The net is a collective
entity consisting of hundreds (thousands?) of individually run sites
that have agreed to exchange / pass on messages.   Netiquette is just
that -- guidelines intended to make life easier on the net.  There are
no rules, in the sense that rules can be enforced.  Anyone with a feed
can do damn near anything they think they can get away with.  The typical
method of "enforcement" is roughly:

	posted flames
	complaints to the poster
	"mail bombs" to the poster
	complaints to the poster's sysadmin
	complaints to the poster's site's feed site

Mail doesn't seem to get to the poster in these cases.

Mail to the sysadmin doesn't seem to be doing much good either.

MN.ORG should have a case for disconnecting anatolia's feed, since 
the MN.ORG computer has been crashed as a result of actions
initiated by anatolia's users.  Disruption of service should
always be good for a disconnect.  note: the crash was due to
overload from mail-bombs heading *for* anatolia, but clearly
in response *to* the mass of postings coming from anatolia.

However, from a previous posting I gather that even if MN.ORG
cut anatolia off, there is still a UUnet connection...

UUnet may have a harder time justifying it, unless there is a
clause in the feed contract stating that they expect their 
clients to follow the guidelines of the Usenet.  If there is
such a clause, maybe UUnet can use it as justification for
cutting off the connection.

Any comments from someone with UUnet?

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In article <797@ulogic.UUCP> hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman) writes:
>
>MN.ORG should have a case for disconnecting anatolia's feed, since 
>the MN.ORG computer has been crashed as a result of actions
>initiated by anatolia's users.  Disruption of service should
>always be good for a disconnect.  note: the crash was due to
>overload from mail-bombs heading *for* anatolia, but clearly
>in response *to* the mass of postings coming from anatolia.
>
>However, from a previous posting I gather that even if MN.ORG
>cut anatolia off, there is still a UUnet connection...
>
>UUnet may have a harder time justifying it, unless there is a
>clause in the feed contract stating that they expect their 
>clients to follow the guidelines of the Usenet.  If there is
>such a clause, maybe UUnet can use it as justification for
>cutting off the connection.
>

Well, maybe something has happened.  It's been two days and nothing
from our friend, at least in n.a.p.  Shucks, and just when
I was going to tell you all about my fantastic turkey dinner we
had here in Greece, NY (yup, that the name of the town where
I live.)  :-)

Charlie Dennett --  dennett@kodak.com

hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman) writes:

I am not sure whether it is true that zuma is somewhere in the Eastern
timezone and anatolia is in the Central timezone. Atleast that is what
the Date header reflects but then it can be forged.

)However, from a previous posting I gather that even if MN.ORG
)cut anatolia off, there is still a UUnet connection...

Anatolia now gets email for "free" (right?) aside from the domain
registration charge. If it has to download email from UUnet it is a toll
call. It would be interesting to know what develops if MN.ORG cuts off
anatolia. 

Sridhar.
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Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu