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Started by Chip Salzenberg
Tue, 04 Jan 1994 16:11
John Palmer forged an article supposedly from Chip Salzenberg
Author: Chip Salzenberg
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 1994 16:11
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 1994 16:11
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The facts:
* I posted article <CIE792.DL2>, which said in its entirety:
> Does anyone have any proof *yet* that Rabbit Network is
> not a front for John Palmer?
* Someone posted a forgery <CIE792.DM2>. It had the same
headers as my valid message (except for the message ID).
It said in its entirety:
> Does anyone have any proof *yet* that I am not a fuckhead?
* Alerted by E-Mail about the forgery, I solicited as many copies
of it as people would send me.
* All copies of the forgery had Path: headers ending with the string
"usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!fin!chip". CWRU does talk to ncoast.
So the path up through "ncoast" seemed real. But my site, fin,
doesn't talk to ncoast.
* The news log at CWRU reports receiving the forgery from ncoast;
it seems genuine.
* The news log at ncoast reports receiving the forgery from fin,
which is impossible, since fin and ncoast aren't connected.
> Dec 23 04:26:23.000 fin + <CIE792.DM2@fin.uucp> \
comstar devon keinstr pcohio sgtech usenet
* The UUCP log at ncoast reports that tygra connected just before
the forgery was injected. And tygra had permissions for the
"rnews" command.
* Tygra is John Palmer's machine.
Reconstruction of events:
1. I posted an article that embarrassed John Palmer.
2. John Palmer altered the article to create a forgery which
he assumed would embarrass me.
3. John Palmer injected the forgery at ncoast in such a way
as to make it appear to have come from fin!chip.
Fallout so far:
* Richard Garret, admin of ncoast, has stopped tygra from
executing "rnews" any more.
Suggestion:
* Any and all systems that talk to tygra should stop doing so.
John Palmer has shown himself to be a loose cannon; he is
likely to cause trouble for anyone providing him a feed.
I know that Palmer can use accounts on other machines to get
news access; but forgery without root privileges is rather
more of a challenge, and is usually easier to trace.
Thank you for your attention.
--
Chip Salzenberg <chip%fin.uucp@dg-rtp.dg.com> or <dg-rtp!fin!chip>
Re: John Palmer forged an article supposedly from Chip Salzenberg
Author: Randy Bush
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 05:55
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 05:55
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chip@fin.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: > Suggestion: > ... > * Any and all systems that talk to tygra should stop doing so. > John Palmer has shown himself to be a loose cannon; he is > likely to cause trouble for anyone providing him a feed. Heck, I would not recommend giving Palmer an account on anything more than a pay toilet. And that only in the hope he might slip. People give that dweeb accounts? Why? -- randy@psg.com ...!uunet!m2xenix!randy
Re: John Palmer forged an article supposedly from Chip Salzenberg
Author: Karl Denninger
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 06:24
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 06:24
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In article <2gdkp6$ica@rip.psg.com>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: >chip@fin.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: >> Suggestion: >> ... >> * Any and all systems that talk to tygra should stop doing so. >> John Palmer has shown himself to be a loose cannon; he is >> likely to cause trouble for anyone providing him a feed. > >Heck, I would not recommend giving Palmer an account on anything more than >a pay toilet. And that only in the hope he might slip. People give that >dweeb accounts? Why? I suggest an account on a airliner toilet at 30,000 feet, with a <very> tight seal. I leave the results of that to the reader's imagination :-) -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.COM) | MCSNet - First Interactive Internet and Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | Clarinet feed in Chicago. Send email to Voice/FAX: [+1 312 248-8649] | "info@mcs.com" for more information.
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