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Re: Live News & Professional Electronic Publications in USENET Format

#174
From: Chris Lewis
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1989 21:29
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In article <14399@bfmny0.UUCP> tneff@bfmny0.UUCP (Tom Neff) writes:
|In article <17588@paris.ics.uci.edu> nagel@paris.ics.uci.edu (Mark Nagel) writes:
|> * This software is Copyright (c) 1986 by Rick Adams.

|> * Permission is hereby granted to copy, reproduce, redistribute or
|> * otherwise use this software as long as: there is no monetary
|> * profit gained specifically from the use or reproduction or this
|> * software...

|Even if Brad didn't use B news software to post the ClariNet material, 
|B news would probably still be used by intermediate forwarding sites 
|as well as the subscriber's receiving site. 

By definition, all intermediate forwarding sites are subscribers (or
providers).

|Since the provision of the 
|ClariNet service (and hence the profits derived) depends on forwarding 
|AND receiving as well as his initial posting, then you could say the 
|terms of the B news copyright were being violated. 

Presumably not quite - Clarinet isn't charging for the *use* of B-news, 
it's charging for the contents that B-news has just happened to be carrying
(possibly amongst other things).  On the other hand, a public access site
that was charging directly for the use of news (instead of connect time
or disk space) would be in violation.

It's been my understanding that most of the USENET software can be bundled
into a for-sale package, provided that you're not charging for that software.
Eg: using "rn" as an interface to a custom database, where you charge for
the database, and give away "rn" free.  Even copyleft doesn't prohibit this
sort of thing.

|However, since the holder of the copyright, Rick Adams, is implicitly 
|supporting the ClariNet venture by accepting it as a UUNET feed, one 
|assumes the objection is moot. 

Precisely.
-- 
Chris Lewis, R.H. Lathwell & Associates: Elegant Communications Inc.
UUCP: {uunet!mnetor, utcsri!utzoo}!lsuc!eci386!clewis
Phone: (416)-595-5425
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!attcan!lsuc!eci386!clewis
From: clewis@eci386.uucp (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Live News & Professional Electronic Publications in USENET Format
Message-ID: <1989Jun19.212949.24628@eci386.uucp>
Date: 19 Jun 89 21:29:49 GMT
References: <3492@looking.on.ca> <4494@ficc.uu.net> <WISNER.89Jun11121944@anableps.berkeley.edu> <307@lawnet.LawNet.Com> <WISNER.89Jun12135437@anableps.berkeley.edu> <17588@paris.ics.uci.edu> <14399@bfmny0.UUCP>
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Organization: R. H. Lathwell Associates: Elegant Communications, Inc.
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